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katzcats posted:
Hi. Need some help and advice on what is going on and how best to treat it. I am partly disabled. I work in a job with the employer who caused my disability several yrs ago. It has always been high stress and a hostile work environment since they do not like my disability but nobody will hire me. Two yrs ago I was cut to part time. There are times that I have anxiety attacks...stomache in knots, sweaty, dizzy, tingly arms, and difficulty breathing. I recognize them for what they are and usually I am breathing too fast and have to slow it down. Other times I have issues feeling like I am not getting enough oxygen when I breath and there is no reason. There are times I go outside in the moist air after it has rained and it feels like I cant breath fully.

Last week, I started having allergies when the fires started. Few days past and things improved. Then I got laringitis! No sore throat, no extreme allergy, or viral symptoms. I get laringitis usually once a yr in the winter and it usually has viral symptoms...don't get it in the summer. I started complaining to a coworker that I felt as if I couldn't get enough oxygen that first day and my body just ached. The next day, still no voice and still not getting enough oxygen. Then it rained and I walked outside and my breath was sucked out of me. I wheezed all night. My family has a history of asthma in adults but I have never been diagnosed. I have no medical insurance..my employer cut that too when they made us part time. Went to the low income clinic even though I stopped wheezing in the morning. He said I was discribing an asthma attack and probably had it mildly but had never been diagnosed. He gave me steroid for four day and I almost immediately improved while on them and for a1-2 days after.

The problem is that my employer started putting me in front of the door for an hr or so at night when we have been on alert for high particulates due to the many fires around us. At night is when are air tend to be filled with smoke because the winds blow it over the mountains...It has been thick like fog and you can't see the mountains just a few miles from us. When they do that, I start wheezing again. It not a loud wheezing and I don't know if anyone else could hear it. Just I sound like I have a leaky intertube with the occasional whistling. I end up having issues all night and the clinic is not open nights.

Two days ago we had good air for most of the evening and I didn't wheeze at work or have any breathing issues until I went outside and we were thick with smoke. That was a noisy night! Yesterday we had clean air period and I was fine until I found out that work cut my hrs to where I can't make rent, food, or bills. I am already done to one meal a day because of finances and cant cut any more. I started having an anxiety attack...feeling shaky, sweaty, dizzy, and breathing too fast. I tried to slow down breathing but the anxiety seemed to trigger an asthma attack...Now I am breathing slower but wheezing and can't get enough air breathing normally. I was up to wee hrs wheezing, coughing, and with a headache. I get headaches when the coughing and wheezing start. It was a very noisy night.

I know the difference between an anxiety attack and asthma attack. The one I have had most of my life and controlled without meds...I grew up with OCD that I learned to control on my own under threat of being locked up in a mental institution by parents who didn't understand why germs and washing my hands were such big issues. That is always in back of head but I deal with it without much thought unless Im over stressed, or ill! It seems to me that I am having asthma which is triggered by moist air, smoke, and stress/anxiety. The question is when I go back to doctor, would it be wise to seek meds for the anxiety because work is now at breaking point and def. triggering asthma. Do I invest in inhaler, or anxiety meds?
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amcate responded:
In general, controlling asthma takes priority over controlling anxiety. I would be sure to have an asthma rescue inhaler if you don't already have one.

FYI: there is the American with Disabilities Act that may apply, but you have to decide if it is wise to act on it in your situation.
 
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katzcats replied to amcate's response:
Thanks for replying...I did get a prescription for a rescue inhaler but I cant' afford it...The cheapest is $60.00! A co-worker just gave me 14 doses of Advair and since this probably is caused by the smoke from all the fires in the air, I think I am going to just try that. She said it should solve the issue in about a wk if its allergic asthma!
 
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amcate replied to katzcats's response:
I would look at the manufacturer's websites for prescription assistance, Sam's Club pharmacy, or discount pharmacy cards. I think there's a website called something like needymeds, but perhaps others can also offer advice.

Advair is a controller drug, used to prevent attacks, but it won't stop an attack once it's started. The main issue is if you have a severe, life threatening type of attack and don't have medicine that works quickly to open the lungs.

I use Advair, but still have attacks that on occasion are life threatening. That being said, the Advair does make those types of attacks less common. You also have to take it everyday long term for it to work.

Anyway, I know your money is tight. You may want to check where the nearest ER is so they can get you rescue medicines if you have a severe, life threatening type of attack.

If you live in the USA, next year it should be a nonissue with the healthcare reform....hopefully.
 
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katzcats replied to amcate's response:
Thanks...I am working on finding some help for the inhaler. As for Obama care next yr. He left a major loop hole in his bill...He does not require any employer to provide medical for part timers. This is why nationwide many employers have done what mine have and cut their people to part time. My employer told me outright that is why they were changing fulltime plans and discontinuing part time.That is how I lost my insurance. I have already called around and the cheapest qoute for private insurance in 2014 is $600 a month. If I can't find full time, and i have been looking for two yrs, there is no way I can even live on 20 hrs a wk let alone pay for private insurance. Yes, I can not be excluded for a pre-existing condition but that does no good if I can't pay for a private plan. In the past, you couldn't be excluded from a employer paid plan anyway, only a private plan. My own mother bought in to that arguement that it would provide medical for all...Refused to believe the quotes I have been getting. Well her doctor just showed her proof enough to finally change her mind. She called to apologize. To top it off, my parents are military retired and tricare just sent them a letter that they will cutting retiree dependents medical benefits to almost nothing in order to help pay for this and social security is also threatening to cut her benefits. All these changes have put 2 of her kids out of work, cut me to being so underemployed I can't survive much longer, and the only one of the kids still employed has MS and her employer just announce that to pay for all this her medicine and medical is going up! It seems to be the only people benefiting from this are people who were restricted from private insurance, or those who didn't wish to work in the first place. Those who were the working poor fell into two classes...those who bought into employer insurance no matter if we could afford it or not and those who refused to pay for it even when they could qualify for employer plans. Those people wont purchase it no matter what the cost. Yes, those who didn't want to work may or may not get a plan but to give them more options we tolk it away from the working poor! I pray it is over turned so I can find work full time and be insured period, even if it is not the best plan. In the meantime, me and many young people I work with have decided if it comes down to it, our lives are in God's hands because we already have been pushed to bankrupcy, lost our retirement and savings is gone. I would rather die than go into debt so high I can never pay it off...bankrupcy again is not an option!
 
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amcate replied to katzcats's response:
Glad you're working on the rescue inhaler. I just wanted to be sure you knew about life threatening attacks as I didn't when I first got asthma and didn't know when I was losing consciousness it was serious.

When I mentioned Obamacare, I didn't know your whole story, so was saying that since things will be changing, maybe it will help...or maybe not, but hopefully it would. In terms of the $600 premiums per month, based on what you're saying you would probably qualify for subsidies, which is what you're referring to when you say they're cutting back on other programs to help fund it.

In my case, I got sick in my thirties with not only moderate to severe persistent asthma, but also found out my body had launched an attack and destroy mission against its own joints, had other orthopedic issues, and then also issues related to cancer. So, I was at the doctor a lot to prepare for surgery to the joints the body attacked as well as the other issues. So, it's not that I didn't want to work, but I had to take time to address these problems, especially since if I didn't, it would likely have cost me my life (some of the cancer related stuff had to do with aggressive types of cancer). I couldn't be in 2 places at once, but didn't qualify for disability since I could still physically do the job. So, I lost the employer plan. Dealing with the joint surgery took 2 years from beginning to end, and COBRA ran out, then no one else would take me except my state has a stop gap program which I use to help pay for asthma medicines. I'm single without children, so no one else can cover me with medical insurance.

If I had insurance through my employer, it's basically useless to me because if I got really sick again, I end up losing it when I need it since I can't possibly work and also be at the doctor's getting biopsies or other medical care at the same time. Full time folks in my profession need to be able to be at work reliably, and if they aren't due to medical issues, then the employer gets rid of them. The FMLA does not cover 2 years of time. Between everything going on, I was at the doctor's office once or twice a week and flying out of state every few months to see a specialist since the joint issue is evidently a rare phenomenon as the cause is unknown.


So, I do work when I can....and I want to work....but I can't be working and also getting biopsies or other medical care since I can't be in 2 places at once.

Anyway, sorry that you've been hurt with your job. I'm not trying to argue for/against Obamacare, just telling my story of what happened with me.

I understand the concerns with bankruptcy and cost of medical care. I would also rather die than to be seen as prey and vultures coming at me.
 
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amcate replied to katzcats's response:
FYI-when I was in my 20s, my parents couldn't pay for my college except 2 years. So, i worked 2 or 3 jobs part time, slept only 2-3 hours at a time, had no car...somehow I made it through. I ended up paying for graduate school as well. I went mostly to in state schools and just worked as much as I could at whatever I could find. I ended up with a Master's degree...but then got sick a few years after that. My point is, I'm not a lazy person. I paid for almost all my education and worked several jobs to do it. I work with geriatric folks, and if I'm not healthy, then I can't help them get better either. It's complicated, though....so I hope things get better for everyone, including you.
 
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amcate replied to katzcats's response:
It so happens after I left here, I went to another thread where a man listed some cheap options for rescue meds. http://i.walmartimages.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/customer_list.pdf . It doesn't have a meter dose inhaler for albuterol, but does have a nebulizer form and a tablet form. I don't know much of the tablets/syrup, and don't know if you have a way to find out about them and get a script...but thought it might help you. It says 10 dollars for a 3 months supply, but if you don't use it much...maybe it would last longer.
 
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amcate responded:
I did some research, and found an online Canadian pharmacy that sells one rescue inhaler for $21, and 3 for $51. I didn't know which type of rescue inhaler you were prescribed, so assumed Ventolin. I've never used online pharmacies, so don't know much of their quality.
 
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amcate responded:
I did additional research, and found another online Canadian pharmacy that claims to sell generic albuterol, 1 for $17, 2 for $25, 3 for $35, 4 for $45, and 6 for $59. I thought the US banned selling of generic albuterol due to CFCs (safe to use for the patient, but it creates air pollutants which destroy the ozone layer), so I don't know. Anyway, I know you said you would try the Advair only for now, just giving you more information/options if it helps you.
 
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kingsleyke responded:
Once I heard that metal detectors are dangerous for Asthma guy. Is that real?
 
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kingsleyke replied to amcate's response:
I once heard that Asthma sufferer cannot come near metal detectors. Is that Real? How can a detector harmful to human body?
 
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kingsleyke replied to amcate's response:
I once heard that Asthma sufferer cannot come near metal detectors. Is that Real? How can a detector harmful to human body?
 
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amcate replied to kingsleyke's response:
I reread the posts as I'm unsure where we brought up a metal detector. You may want to start a new thread with the question. I've never had trouble with metal detectors and I've not heard that it is problematic specifically for asthma suffers, though there may be some out there who think metal detectors are problematic overall, but I don't know about that.


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