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    Painful to touch
    An_243157 posted:
    I have L5-S1 herniated discs. I have had multiple epidurals, SCS implanted and then removed. RA and Fibromylgia dx'd years ago. I want to know if anyone has pain to just touch your lower back? I sit here in the chair and if I put my hand on my back I can just scream. It is so painful when the Doctors want to examine me and then they start touching and pressing on my lower back. I have numbness in both legs, shooting down the back of my leg. I had a Doctor once want to do a spinal fusion. I left and never went back. They want to put me on the pain pump if my oral meds become less effective. I had a MRI done in 2009 and nothing since. I just sit here and wonder if maybe I should see if they can repair some of my problems and then maybe I won't need as much medications. My lower back just hurts bad as it is and then when they touch. I have read alot of the articles on Web MD and don't really hear about this and was just wondering,
    dianer01 responded:
    Hi Anon,

    Your pain is very real but not likely the herniaed disks. There is too much anatomy including skin, fat, muscle and bone between your hands and the disks. If the disks are pressing on a nerve this could cause the pain along if the muscles are spasming.

    It sounds like you have not been evaluated in about three years or so. Might be time to be reevaluated and see if you can get some relief for this pain. Possibly even a second opinion.

    Have you tried hot or cold packs? Some find relief from one or both. I find relief from cold packs and have invested in packs which stay soft even when frozen. Makes using them that more efficient and comfortable.

    My best to you.

    bj1208 replied to dianer01's response:
    hi -

    as Diane says, it's really time you get re-evaluated - yes I have this tender spot along my lower back - I can barely touch it without almost crying out in pain and my pain doc has rubbed his hand over it and I've cried and screamed in pain - that's not where all my pain is, though - I did have a fusion L5-S1 iin 2/08 and my pains go very deep where the plate etc is too so I have the superficial pains but also deep pains too -

    so yes you do need to see either, or both, Orthopedic Spine Specialist or Neurosurgeon Spine Specialist - it's best to get opinions from both as they are the best at diagnosing back/neck problems - they can also refer you to a good PHYSIATRIST Pain Management clinic which they do go deeper into pain management control than regular pain clinics - here's site to research

    you can also research anything about back/neck problems too - its a good site -

    Diane has given you some good advise too - hope this helps please keep us posted what you find out - take care - Joy
    djsgrandma replied to dianer01's response:
    I have had this problem for awhile. I use the heating pad. I once had the heating pad on and it caused second degree burn on my lower leg. I didn't notice anything until I took the heating pad off. I have numbness in my lower legs and knees. I have bursitis in my hips also. When the Doctor examines me he touches that area and I jump. I just don't know what to say to the Doctor. I have asore spot on my back?
    djsgrandma replied to bj1208's response:
    I used to see a Physiatrist in the pain management clinic. They only recommend that you see one once when you first start. I now am starting to see one once a month. I think that will be good for me and I will talk to him about what is going on. THanks
    dianer01 replied to djsgrandma's response:

    Yes, by all means if your lower back is tender to the touch, tell your doctor. Be prepared to tell the doc what causes it to be better or worse, what helps and doesn't help and does it hurt more or less early or late in the day, with or without activity. This may help your doctor to diagnose what is up. You may want to keep a pain journal.

    Your doctor cannot help if he/she does not know what concerns you.

    dper2000 responded:
    After 2 surgeries the doc told me he would not open me up again. Oral pain meds do not relieve the pain sufficiently and I tried the SCS and hated it. My husband has one in his back and it has stopped helping. I have the shooting pains,numbness and tingling in both legs and my right foot is numb and does not work that well. I had the first fusion and once in awhile I would have two good days of no pain. After my second surgery I do not have one good day. The fusion will most likely not cure all the leg troubles if you had this for a couple years. I have alot of permanent nerve damage.

    I heard of the pain pump and am lucky a pain center offers it and takes my insurance. I really want to try it. My back feels like it never healed if it is touched. I have a huge bulge, I was having deep tissue massage on it, talk about agony! I thought I was the only one that had pain like yours.
    The pain doc told me he thought I had things that could be fixed so I had it fixed, but the damage is done to the nerves. I do not want to be that person with 3 or 4 back surgeries (there are alot out there.). Do research on the pain pump and see if it is for you. If you get it, and need something fixed they can still do that. I'm sick of being a cripple, I used to be very active and go places. I can't go to concerts, races, the state fair, the list goes on, either i can't walk that far or sit that long.What is done is done with my back and the pain pump sounds good to me.,My doctor opened me up and did exploratory surgery while he was in fixing the two discs and saw nothing that would cause my back to hurt when it is touched. As I said, I never heard of it and asked people but no one ever had our symptom, that I know anyways. I have to get the referral faxed Monday to the new pain clinic and when the process is over, I may be praising the pain pump or disgusted I fell for it. It sounds promising to have the meds go right where you need them in the spine. Good luck and you are not alone.

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