L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)
Anon_176914 posted:
Hello Community,
In January 2011 my back "went out" for the 3rd consecutive year - prior to which I had injections and PT and was painfree for almost a year. Around the same time I started having severe hip pain (upper/iliac crest, thru thigh) pain while sleeping, waking me up every 2-3 hours in pain. Presuming it was related to the back (3 herniated discs, scoliosis, arthrtis) I had the recommended microdiscectomy (L4-L5) July 2011.
The surgery was successful in that I've had some improvement in the nerves through my legs however, the sleep disturbing hip pain remains. 4 most of PT, injections, physitrist care have not reaped any improvement. I underwent a second MRI of my hip and the results indicated that there is an "edema and enhancement in the superior endplate of L5 and inferior endplate of L4." I sent the radiologist my 1 month post-op lumbar MRI for comparison however, that lumbar MRI doesn't mention anything about an edema...aside from some tenderness, etc, in my back, I've considered that just the cost of surgery...but this new finding has me a bit concerned as I don't *think* I should have a new edema of that area...thanks in advance for your input.
In January 2011 my back "went out" for the 3rd consecutive year - prior to which I had injections and PT and was painfree for almost a year. Around the same time I started having severe hip pain (upper/iliac crest, thru thigh) pain while sleeping, waking me up every 2-3 hours in pain. Presuming it was related to the back (3 herniated discs, scoliosis, arthrtis) I had the recommended microdiscectomy (L4-L5) July 2011.
The surgery was successful in that I've had some improvement in the nerves through my legs however, the sleep disturbing hip pain remains. 4 most of PT, injections, physitrist care have not reaped any improvement. I underwent a second MRI of my hip and the results indicated that there is an "edema and enhancement in the superior endplate of L5 and inferior endplate of L4." I sent the radiologist my 1 month post-op lumbar MRI for comparison however, that lumbar MRI doesn't mention anything about an edema...aside from some tenderness, etc, in my back, I've considered that just the cost of surgery...but this new finding has me a bit concerned as I don't *think* I should have a new edema of that area...thanks in advance for your input.
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14 Replies |Watch This Discussion | Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)Hello Community,<br /> <br />In January 2011 my back "went out" for the 3rd consecutive year - prior to which I had injections and PT and was painfree for almost a year. Around the same time I started having severe hip pain (upper/iliac crest, thru thigh) pain while sleeping, waking me up every 2-3 hours in pain. Presuming it was related to the back (3 herniated discs, scoliosis, arthrtis) I had the recommended microdiscectomy (L4-L5) July 2011. <br /> <br />The surgery was successful in that I've had some improvement in the nerves through my legs however, the sleep disturbing hip pain remains. 4 most of PT, injections, physitrist care have not reaped any improvement. I underwent a second MRI of my hip and the results indicated that there is an <b>"edema and enhancement in the superior endplate of L5 and inferior endplate of L4."</b> I sent the radiologist my 1 month post-op lumbar MRI for comparison however, that lumbar MRI doesn't mention anything about an edema...aside from some tenderness, etc, in my back, I've considered that just the cost of surgery...but this new finding has me a bit concerned as I don't *think* I should have a new edema of that area...thanks in advance for your input.
bj1208 responded:
DOCTORS: Can you please review this post and respond?!!
I tried to research this and there were too many sites regarding similar situations and I didn't want to give the wrong site to the poster -
Anon_176914 - this is a post that the physicians will need to respond - be patient as it may take a couple of days for response - I will check back and see if response has been made - if not I will keep post at the top so they will see it - take care - Joy
I tried to research this and there were too many sites regarding similar situations and I didn't want to give the wrong site to the poster -
Anon_176914 - this is a post that the physicians will need to respond - be patient as it may take a couple of days for response - I will check back and see if response has been made - if not I will keep post at the top so they will see it - take care - Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b>DOCTORS: Can you please review this post and respond?!!</b><br /><b><br /></b><br />I tried to research this and there were too many sites regarding similar situations and I didn't want to give the wrong site to the poster -<b><br /></b><br /><br /><br />Anon_176914 - this is a post that the physicians will need to respond - be patient as it may take a couple of days for response - I will check back and see if response has been made - if not I will keep post at the top so they will see it - take care - Joy
Thanks, Joy. I tried researching this as well and found too many contrasting articles - none of which seemed close enough to my situation.
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)Thanks, Joy. I tried researching this as well and found too many contrasting articles - none of which seemed close enough to my situation.
DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO POST -
thanks much! Joy
thanks much! Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b>DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO POST</b> -<br /><br /><br />thanks much! Joy
DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -
thanks much!! Joy
thanks much!! Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b>DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -</b><br /><b><br /></b><br />thanks much!! Joy<b><br /></b>
DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -
thanks much!! Joy
thanks much!! Joy
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DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -
thanks much!! Joy
thanks much!! Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b><u>DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -</u></b><br /><br /><br />thanks much!! Joy
DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -
thanks much!! Joy
thanks much!! Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b><u>DOCTORS - PLEASE RESPOND TO MEMBERS POST - IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG TIME MEMBERS HAS ANY INFO RELATIVE TO THIS -</u></b><br /><br /><br />thanks much!! Joy
DOCTORS, WebMD Staff - it really would be appreciated to have some type of feedback. How should a patient handle not just the pain and symptoms (which I know you can't really answer to) but more importantly the drastic differences in reports? Really at mi wits end and do not know what to do.
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<b>DOCTORS, WebMD Staff </b>- it really would be appreciated to have some type of feedback. How should a patient handle not just the pain and symptoms (which I know you can't really answer to) but more importantly the drastic differences in reports? Really at mi wits end and do not know what to do.<br /><br />Thanks.<a href="http://forums.webmd.com/3/back-pain-exchange/forum/4445#"><img src=http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/exchange/images/btn_submit_orange.gif class=post_img /></a>
Hang in there...keep focused and try to relax, but don't give up!
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)Hang in there...keep focused and try to relax, but don't give up!
I sent a request to Chrissy at WEBMD to ask for assistance - she did respond and said she is working on this -
Normally the doc's respond real fast to these questions - my only insight is that they have been extremely busy - hope you get your response soon-
take care - Joy
Normally the doc's respond real fast to these questions - my only insight is that they have been extremely busy - hope you get your response soon-
take care - Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)I sent a request to Chrissy at WEBMD to ask for assistance - she did respond and said she is working on this -<br /><br /><br />Normally the doc's respond real fast to these questions - my only insight is that they have been extremely busy - hope you get your response soon-<br /><br /><br />take care - Joy
Dr. Levin - would you be so kind as to answer this post - the member has been waiting a while for a response -
Thanks much - Joy
Thanks much - Joy
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)<u><b>Dr. Levin - would you be so kind as to answer this post - the member has been waiting a while for a response -</b></u><br /><br /><br />Thanks much - Joy
DOCTORS - WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW NEW MEMBERS POST AND ANSWER QUESTIONS?!! THE MEMBER HAS BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE A WHILE ~~
Thanks much - Joy
Thanks much - Joy
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DOCTORS - WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW NEW MEMBERS POST AND ANSWER QUESTIONS?!! THE MEMBER HAS BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE A WHILE ~~
thanks - Joy
thanks - Joy
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tsw356 responded:
I have the same problem ............I found this paper online that shed some light on my case. I peeked at my MRI report in the Dr's. office and saw the term "SAPHO" which is a combination of problems. All explained here.......http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/29/2/599.full
I hope this helps.
I hope this helps.
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Report This| Share this:L5 superior endplate edema & enhancement (MD response requested)I have the same problem ............I found this paper online that shed some light on my case. I peeked at my MRI report in the Dr's. office and saw the term "SAPHO" which is a combination of problems. All explained here.......http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/29/2/599.full<br /><br />I hope this helps.

