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The reason that woman have have HDL is estrogen. And after menopause it decrease and there risk of heart disease increaes.

HDL over 100 is a little too high. Much depends on the type of HDL that makes up this number. It can be large particle or small, with small particle HDL not being considered a protective agent for heart disease. In addition, an HDL this high could be caused by an underlying medical issue as well.

Here's a link that may provide more information;

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/121187-overview#a0101

Hope this helps,

Tony

My HDL is 116--I am a 62 yr old female in good health--I exercise regularly, and work for a cardiology practice in administration. Consistently my cardiologists say this is really amazingly high. Before coming to work at present job, my family doctors ignored my very high overall cholesterol because of the exceedingly high HDL, saying it "balanced out." I came to see a cardiologist at my practice (and landed a job, too!) for another reason and this doctor was smart enough to say, "I don't trust this" and ran a very detailed Berkeley Heart Lab which showed that the bad news is I have some teeny tiny LDL and the HDL cannot offset or battle that. I was put on Simcor (a statin with Niaspan) for the LPa small particles. Niaspan supposedly blasts the tiny particles out of the crevices of the arteries. My cardiologist also suggested I have a carotid study done as a screening tool for plaque buildup. My recommendation would be more detailed bloodwork (advanced lipid panel) to see the entire picture. Thanks!

I am a very active 71 year old female whose HDL usually ranges from 85 to 110. My internist says this , combined with my consistantly low triglycerides is very good. Also , Drs Roizen and Ozz state in their book, You Staying Young , that HDL is more important than LDL for persons over 65.

There is more to high HDL than what Dr. Oz says. Here's a link that eplains more;

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/121187-overview#showall

You stay active, enjoy yourself good on you.


My dear missus is coming up 60 she cycles 400 - 500 ks per month, swims, water aerobics. Goes tramping and mountain biking with great people aged range from 55 to 94.

The majority of these active people don't give a hoot about any of their blood readings never go to a doctor unless it is so serious they cant persue their sport, they just enjoy life.

Don't let anyone scare you, keep enjoying yourself young lady !

Who are you accusing of scaring her? If you are referring to my post above you obviously did not bother to take time to read my link above. It absolutely supports her position and the point you made.

If you want to take jabs, do the homework first.

Dear Sir,

I had no intention of inferring you yourself was scaring the young 71 year active lady. I was not referring to any of your posts.

The great cholesterol clobbering marketing machine throughout the Western world wrongfully and unnecessarily scares many of us.

I know what it is like to be scared, "what if my cholesterol is up, what if my blood pressure is up, what if I have a heart attack and I am 2 hrs away from hospital?"

Being scared is the pits!

For those that believe I respect them.
For those that don't believe I respect them.
For those who are unsure I actively encourage them to energetically enjoy life and not be scared.

I can't quite read your last line.
Best to you.

The great cholesterol clobbering marketing machine throughout the Western world wrongfully and unnecessarily scares many of us.

I base my opinion of fact, the fact is that cholesterol is a proven risk factor for CAD, period;

http://www.jewishhospitalcincinnati.com/cholesterol/Research/ROLE_LDL_CHOLESTEROL_HDL_PREV_CORONARY_STROKE.html

I just wish some one can show one study that refutes any of these. It is hard for some people to accept, however cholesterol can and does play a role in CAD. Some people can live with high cholesterol with no problems just as some can smoke into the 90's, but that's bucking the odds and is not the smart play.

The fact is that heaps of us have been scared and maimed by the machine gun attitude of some people to cholesterol and statins whom we place our trust Fact

Merk has a patent on a statin/COQ10 combo. Fact

Merk has not introduced this to the market. Fact

Statins have killed. Fact

Some humans have lived well into their 90s with high cholesterol. Fact.

There is not a statin drug trial on the planet that shows reasonable mortality saving in the elderly. Fact

To lower a cholesterol count has been reported in medical journals for decades as being associated with aggression and physciatric disorder. Fact.

Cholesterol will help bandage a damaged artery. Fact

Cholesterol is essential for life without it we die. Fact.

the fact is that cholesterol is a proven risk factor for CAD, period;


Death is also caused by planes, cars, hunting rifles, water etc.


Vaccinate, medicate and avoid them to.


We need to balance our reading with obvious natural occurring observations.

The fact is that heaps of us have been scared and maimed by the machine gun attitude of some people to cholesterol and statins whom we place our trust Fact

Many, many more have died from CAD caused by high cholesterol whether you want to believe it or not.

Merk has a patent on a statin/COQ10 combo. Fact

Merk has not introduced this to the market. Fact

So what? You can get both and take them together anytime you want. Why would Merck invest the money to combine two drugs you can get and take independently? This point makes no sense at all. They own the patent to keep it away from a competitor, pretty smart actually. If there comes a time where there is a market for this which proves to be profitable, they'll introduce it. Do you have any idea how many hundreds of millions of dollars it would take to get this combination on the market? What would be the point. It's like trying to create a fruit that's half apple, half banana, what would that serve? This is typical spacedoc rhetoric.

Statins have killed. Fact

Penicillin has killed, should we tell everyone to avoid it as well? Reactions to penicillin are much higher than the incidence of side effects for statins. How about vacinations? Do you realize how many people have been killed or mamed by vacinations?

Some humans have lived well into their 90s with high cholesterol. Fact

And some have lived to be over 100 while smoking, should we stop discussing the dangers of smoking based on the experience of this small handful of people?

To lower a cholesterol count has been reported in medical journals for decades as being associated with aggression and physciatric disorder. Fact.

As do Coumadin (all blood thinners including Plavix), opiates, steroids, antidepressants, anti-anxiety meds.... I could go on all day. Let's tell people not to take these as well because you had a bad experience with a statin.

Cholesterol will help bandage a damaged artery. Fact

This is my favorite:) Cholesterol collecting on an artery to repair it becomes by definition a vulnerable plaque and your risk of it rupturing and forming a clot is very high. Seriously?

Cholesterol is essential for life without it we die. Fact.

True, but too much of anything is not good for you. Excess cholesterol causes plaques in your artery, just the truth.

Bottom line, you don't like statins, don't take them but you ARE NOT QUALIFIED to even hint that others should not take them if prescribed by an educated and trained medical professional. Until you have the letters M.D. after your name you are putting people at risk if even one person stops with a prescribed medication based on half truths.

Bottom line, you don't like statins, don't take them but you ARE NOT QUALIFIED to even hint that others should not take them if prescribed by an educated and trained medical professional. Until you have the letters M.D. after your name you are putting people at risk if even one person stops with a prescribed medication based on half truths.


You posted yourself you would not take drugs on a doctor's say. Why?


You completely contradict yourself re COQ10/Statin patent. You say good business stops others getting it then you say anyone can get both.


Has there been any drug trials with COQ10/statin combination?


I never offer people medical advice I encourage them to look beyond science to god and nature from which science evolved.


You are constantly offering medical advice,


Your qualifications are ?

You posted yourself you would not take drugs on a doctor's say. Why?

I will once I am comfortable with the doctor's explanation and my research. I also don't jump out of airplanes without a parachute, what does that prove?

You completely contradict yourself re COQ10/Statin patent. You say good business stops others getting it then you say anyone can get both.

You completely miss the point. Why spend hundreds of millions of dollars in research and trials to put a drug on the market that is not necessary or has no demand? If I want to take COQ10 along with my statin I can get it at the drug store on the supplement aisle and take it with my Simvastatin, I don't need Merck do make a combination for me. Like I said. it's like someone spending millions of dollars to create an Banapple. I can get a banana and an apple at the store anytime I want one.

Has there been any drug trials with COQ10/statin combination?

Why should there be? We know about statins and we know about COQ10, why spend the money on a trial. If the spacdoc experts think there should be one, why don't they get off their backsides, get the funding and do one? Why won't they do any trials?

You are constantly offering medical advice,


Your qualifications are ?

You are obviously new here and have not read many of my posts. I never give medical advice and I always recommend that posters discuss what is said here, including what I say, with their doctors. I never try to talk people into taking statins nor do I try to scare them off of them. What the spacedoc crowd does is intentionally drive a wedge of distrust between a patient and a doctor, just as you have done here many, many times already.

I am fortunate to be able to spend as many as 4 days a week doing volunteer work at an outstanding, well recognized cardiac care center where I get to spend time with some great cardiologists. I don't just spend my time reading Internet articles and giving medical advice, it's not what I do. In addition, I am a moderator on one heart disease website and a contributor to many. I have never given medical advice and no one will ever accuse me of it.

Has there been any drug trials with COQ10/statin combination?

Why should there be?


Because it may save lives but there wouldn't be much profit in it.


drive a wedge of distrust between a patient and a doctor, just as you have done here many, many times already.


So have you. You are obviously quite medical literate yet you have posted yourself


"I would not take a drug because a doctor told me to"


Most of us lay people willingly accept our doctor's word only to find out later that informed people like yourself would not rely on a doctor's word without checking up. Where does that leave us dumber people.