Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Community

I haven't been on here in many days (not even to lurk) and I was going to start at the bottom and work my way up but I saw this and wanted to respond.

I'm so sorry you are not feeling "right". I could make a joke here but I won't because I feel like this is more serious. I know you like to fluff things off and laugh your way out of it but there does come a time.............

I'm sure you won't like me to say this but I honestly hope you would see your doctor about this as it could be something going on that needs fixed (besides your attitude).

Just off the top of my head it sounds like some anxiety and/or depression going on. Are you on anything for either problem? If you already are, it may be time for a change in dose or switch to something else. Maybe even add something at a different time of day.

You say there haven't been any changes in your meds, home style, marriage, family, diet, sleep pattern, etc., but you ARE experiencing a change. Attitude changes are an important thing to look into. Apparently it is uncharacteristic with you so that signals change.

It may be a physical problem. It could be something you don't even realize, so I hope you will see your doctor and get checked out. I know that's the last thing you want to do but I feel it is a necessary thing to do.

It's been a long winter for you up there and being cooped up and alone a lot can cause some changes but I wouldn't wait too long to seek some medical help and get a professional opinion. I am a retired nurse and these are my opinions.

Please let me know what you think about my suggestions and if you go to the doctor. I care.

Hugs, Karen ^,,^

Hi Karen,

Thanks for the input...I am going to chat with my doc the next time I see him...but, at the same time, I've never been depressed or anxious (other than being in a swamp/jungle and having the bad guys hunting for me)...EVER!

I had another person today mention that the doc should know about it too...and I do plan to look into it. Hey, maybe I'm pregnant...had just about everything else...why not!?

I don't seem to be affected by SAD either...and being alone isn't a problem...btw: I realize that by medical help, you mean psychological help...you can come out and say it...I majored in psychology in college...so, it's not a dirty word with me...last time I saw someone in that profession, I just confused them - seriously! Lots of them are just blowing smoke, and really don't have a clue what they're doing or what life's all about (no one really does know about life, but the majority admit it).

Mary and I were talking during dinner, and I was grabbing at straws, and I thought maybe...maybe...I had some unusual pain levels going on, but my brain was keeping it "under wraps", but the body would still be stressed by it just the same...so, I took a pain med today, just to see if that helps any...so far nothing...but I do feel a bit less like ripping someone's face off...so, maybe I stumbled into it by accident, but j will run it past the doc to be sure...I don't need any more "Surprises".

Thanks..I'll keep ya in the loop if anything exciting comes up.

Jim

Well, I wasn't actually referring to a Psychological help, but if the shoe fits.............

I really was talking about your regular medical doctor. You may need a new check up and new labs run. Sometimes we just go to a doctor for a specific thing and let it go at that but other things may be brewing.

Personally I don't like the Psychologists either. There are some really good, caring ones out there but I believe they are few, and far between.

One thing I forgot to mention in my first post is that -gulp- you are getting older. Sometimes we don't think about it but our bodies continue to change whether we want it to or not. That's another good reason to see your doctor.

You are correct in trying to treat your pain as that can have a bearing on our attitudes if prolonged pain isn't addressed.

Hugs, Karen ^,,^

.....mention that you may need to have your head examined, but not by a psychologist. You just never know. There doesn't always have to be headaches to signal something. That's why I still say that you need to see your doctor.............PLEASE???????

Huggers, Karen ^,,^

I think you and Karen had a great dialog. I have a feeling it is a medication thing especially if you are taking any kind of meds that affect your moods.

Also, what Karen said about depression. I had it for years and didn't recognize the manifestations until a family Dr. told me. Poor Roger did a yoeman's duty getting along with me during that time. You do have FM. Most of us ladies can tell you it is a package that has depression embedded. I'ts a seratonin thing.

I hope you find out what it is soon. It's miserable to feel that way. Linda K

Hi Karen (again),

Oh yeah...I will definitely be talking to my doc about it. As to my meds...I'm off just about everything except my ticker meds, Ambien at night, my soma (as needed), and my tramadol (as needed). Otherwise, it's hot soaks, light exercise, as much fresh air as I can get (pending Momma Nature's mood)....decent diet and all that junk that's supposed to keep us going.

As to getting OLD...eh, it sure beats the alternative doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I don't mind making Mary rich, but I'd like to be able to help her spend it is all.

STOP WORRYING! I will see my doc...I'm running out of things to fail...if you know what I mean.

Have a great weekend there,

Jim

Hi Linda,

I really don't think I'd put my money on meds (see above). As to depression, I don't really think so either...like I said, I have no clue what depression is like...can't ever remember being depressed EVER. I guess I'm lucky that way...

Right now, it's not a mood thing so much as an anger issue (wait..anger is a mood isn't it?)...well, you know what I mean.

I'm just irritated with people in general...have had a bad attitude about humanity for a long time...just seems like it's more on the surface now instead of being submerged.

It's kinda like, I really don't like people (generally).

My family is excluded, as are friends (both here and in my everyday life), and the critters...but just your average joe on the street...PFFT...TAKE A HIKE LOOSER!...sorry, that's how I feel about humanity in general.

Maybe I'm paying too much attention to things?? I dunno...that's why I posed the question..to get some feedback that didn't come from folks other than the immediate circle that are in my locale.

What can I say?

Jim

INTERESTING...

According to what I've been able to look up concerning Anger....I have a toxic personality!

Should that go on my resume?

Actually, most of the info I found concerning anger is pretty worthless...it addresses suppressed anger...mine isn't...it's right out there for everyone to see...just well aimed.

Not know when I'm angry...I do...it's OFTEN...especially when it comes to politicians and other single celled life forms.

Nothing seems to address the WHY of anger...couple of hints, but extremely vague...can't even put a finger on it other than just feeling that there's something else that needs to be added to it...more in-depth info.

Ah well...another notch in my belt!

Jim

More to follow as I find out

Hi Jim, OMG your words are echoing thru my home. My husband has been losing it...and he does not have FM. He can't.....I want/have it.... I'm lying of course.

We have been on a heck of a roller coaster lately. He has been saying not so kind things to me, (highly unusual), he's always a happy, caring, loving man. I found out that he stopped cold turkey taking Effexor...the VA call antidepressants..."mood" pills. He is going to be 72 this summer, I'm trying to cope and help him cope. But the "episodes" is really making me go in to a crying jag. Pain. I take alot of pills to for lots of diff. reasons. The best thing we have done for ourselves is TALK. He has had a 2 yr stint with caring for me, learning to cook, etc. Both of us upset off and on. After our talk, he apologized to me 3 times in 30 mins....NEVER in 30yrs. So, he told me he would go back to see the psyc Dr at VA. I'm actually have been more cheerful, and walking and standing for 30 to 40 mins until the pain hits. I've improved more.

Do you think aging is a problem? What about memory? Those things bother me, but he seems more bothered.

That 3 A.M. talk we had turned out to be some darn good medicine. We put a pot of coffee on and really got things out in the open. Retirement years have not been good for us. Neither was the Stock Mkt. We talked for hours, it really helped us. Maybe you need to try something like that.

My heart goes out to you and Mary, and hope things get better. I hope I've helped some.

Hugs, Suellen (Bobby calls me an M & M , hard on the outside and soft in the inside) Need to let go ....and have a good long cry, we did and things seem brighter.

Hi Suellen,

I don't think of it as necessarily "Loosing it"...Maybe more like...this is how I am...get used to it kinda thing.

Nope, I haven't had much use for humanity most of my life, and my memory stinks right out loud...has for some time...I can give you chapter and verse on things that happened 30 + years ago, but don't ask me what I had for dinner.

Talking about this kind of thing, in a dialog, really doesn't seem to help me much....I need someone I can ask question of, not that anyone would actually have the answer, but more likely that they'd lightly side-swipe a direction that I haven't explored yet, and hopefully that can give me some insight as to the WHY...that's the bottom line for me, and the WHY is always the hardest part as the answer isn't "Out There", it's IN HERE...and I can't seem to find it - and yes, that's irritating as well.

I seem to live my life in a continual form of search for answers to questions that don't really have answers. Odd, isn't it? Dang Frustrating too.

Nah, no need to send your heart out to us (me), it's just one of those annoying questions of life that I don't have an answer to...Mary isn't being groused at, or the critters...it's just humanity in general that ticks me off so much. If my anger was suppressed...then there'd be a good reason to be concerned, as I wouldn't know when/if it would rear itself and to what extent...this way I still have some control over things.

On With the Quest!

Jim

Jim, I can tell you I felt this way towards everone (family, friends and strangers) while I was taking the steroids. I am better since I got off them.

I was hurting really bad the other night, the next day Milt told me I was a little snippy over something petty. I don't even remember it. Just shows, pain does play a big part in how we percieve things.

Hope you figure it out! Hate that you feel this way.

Huggers,

Kim

Hi Kim,

Yep, me too...but what I really dislike is not knowing what's going on. Used to take steroidal injections in the base of my spine, but that was years and years ago...don't touch them anymore...I got enough stuff with problems...I don't have that many parts that can afford to fail anymore - if you know what I mean, and I'm not going to help them fail either!

I hope I can get it figured out too....it's that DANG Why though....gotta get an answer to that yet...maybe it won't be in this life....or the next one, or the one after that, but I'll get an answer...one way or another.

Have a good one there...BTW: Woody's been out for a couple of jaunts this past week...guess that's a sure sign of spring.

Toodles,

Jim

Did it ever cross your mind that with the way the world seems to be going. That you might have a reason for these feelings?

It can sure set me off with anger when I start thinking of some of the "stupidest" people and what they do??

Again just a thought

Hi Dragon,

Sounds like you already read "Might Have a Glimpse"!

Folks Be Dopes, eh?

Jim