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Ear Infection wont go away - now they say Aspergillus Niger - child 6
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An_187563 posted:
My daughter (age 6) has had an ear infection/swimmers ear since this past mid august (and has been out of the water and trying everything to prevent water from going in) and she is now on her 4th go of antibiotics (augmenten(sp) and ear drops both flox/cip drops — (I understand the difference between swimmers ear and inner ear — she gets both) she had a T&A and tubes 3/09 and the tubes came out right around the time she got a ragging ear infection this august. Her left ear is still causing such pain that she wakes up at night and is still discharging, grumpy and when she was in the first of Sept they pulled her left tube out that was stuck sideways (swollen) and sent a culture of the discharge in and it came back mold, the tube was nasty black and they also keep pulling out some stringy black/white goop — oh and the discharge coming from her ear stinks! the lab culture findings just came back as aspergillus niger and the doctor just keeps suctioning her ear every week and to continue on the augmenten and flox. drops — now besides the ear pain she has a cold or something starting with a terrible cough and dizzy spells and of course is missing school and is very very sensitive to sounds. I'm kind of in a bind b/c our medical care is limited to the military in our area. What should I be asking, to help be more of an advocate for my daughter? She needs sleep and of course I do too! Thanks!
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD responded:
Is she seeing an ENT specialist? If not, this needs to be arranged - either for a civilian ENT or to a different base that has an ENT.

Has anyone considered putting her on a topical antifungal medication for the FUNGUS? Aspergillosis does not really respond to antibacterial medications, but it is possible that she has BOTH.
 
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sunnystrauss replied to Rod Moser, PA, PhD's response:
ooops not sure if this is sent twice - my daughter is seeing an ent and he's not convinced the aspergillus niger is doing anything to cause her pain - he said her ear canal is still very very swollen with lot's of things inside (whatever that means) so he gave us new ear drops to use - "Neomycin and Polymyxin B Sulfates and Hydrocortisone Otic Suspension" and come back in a week for more suctioning.

left ent office and went directly to our primary care doc and he made a few calls and my daughter will be seen infectious diseases dept or something like that tomorrow or friday.
 
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD replied to sunnystrauss's response:
Let me know what happens after seeing the infectious disease specialist
 
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Emmalee22 replied to sunnystrauss's response:
Way to be an advocate for your daughter! I had ear issues as a child and my 7 year old does too, but your case sounds very scary! I wish you much luck; the specialists sound like the way to go.
 
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sunnystrauss replied to Rod Moser, PA, PhD's response:
my daughter was seen by ID doctors today - ended up suctioning her ear again, she apparently has a second strain growing in her ear, the a.niger was confirmed yet again, and waiting on the lab for the type of the second. She got her ear suctioned out again and this time they put in a ketoconazole cream in her ear. She has a referral to a new ent tomorrow. And depending upon that her followup in ID is next week. the other thing her other ear now has fluid behind her ear drum or something like that... Gosh this is crazy, just praying she doesn't lose her hearing. Pain level is on and off and when it's on, it's like a lightning bolt strikes her and she kringes with loud noises... hoping this cream works.
 
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD replied to sunnystrauss's response:
Thanks for the update. I can't imagine that this external ear canal infection, fungal or not, will permanently threaten her hearing. I am pleased that you are seeing another ENT for that all-important second opinion. At least she is on some antifungal therapy now...not an antibiotic.
 
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ChelceyLanier responded:
oh my gosh this is exactly like my three yr old daughter side ways ear tube and continuous ear infection and she just got diagnosed with aspergillius in her left ear today. she has to go toe vanderbuilt to see an infectious disease specialist and some other kind of specialist...i am worried to death
 
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD replied to ChelceyLanier's response:
Worrying doesn't really help, but as a parent, this is something that may be unavoidable. Aspergilosis can be treated...and cured, so hang in there.
 
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Libsey921 replied to ChelceyLanier's response:
My son has just been diagnosed with aspergillius in his ear. Can you tell me who at Vanderbilt you saw and if it was helpful? We've been to 2 ENT's here in Memphis and am not sure we are making much headway with this. I hope your daughter is doing ok!
 
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD replied to Libsey921's response:
Aspergillius is quite common in the external ear, so it should be able to be effectively managed by antifungal therapy, although the results can be slow coming...very frustrating for the patient (or the parents). WebMD does not usually permit posting of physician names or specific recommendations for clinics, etc.
 
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Billdaddy replied to Rod Moser, PA, PhD's response:
Dr Rod..
I beg to differ with you.. I am totally deaf now an d the cause of my deafness was mold and mycotoxins from the mold.. Treating any systemic fungal infection with antibiotics or steroids like prednisone is a mistake. Most antibiotics are made from mold and are in fact mycotoxins so they will only add to the toxic burden already present in your body.. Steroids suppress the immune system and will cause one to be more vulnerable to secondary infections ,, such as mold.. There has been successful litigation in PA for a case involving deafness and toxic mold. When it comes to mold issues,, allopathic medicine is way behind the curve.. Seems they knew more about mold in the days of the Bible than they presently know.. read leviticus,,, chapter 14..
 
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Rod Moser, PA, PhD replied to Billdaddy's response:
I have never seen a case, or even read about one of them. As you may know, there are many different types of mold...some are toxic; most are not. Steroids should never be used if someone has a fungal infection; antibitoics are ineffective.

Most antibiotics are NOT made from mold...they are synthetic now.
 
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Billdaddy replied to Rod Moser, PA, PhD's response:
Some synthetic drugs are being produced now but I would not consider these to be real antibiotics. The reason they are listed qas antibiotics is because they have the same mechanism of destroying or harming another microorganism. As this person makiong this post is finding out ,,,antibiotics are not the way to go when treating fungal infections... I endured 6 weeks of IV antibiotic treatment for a misdiagnosis of lyme disease and shortly there after I became totally deaf.. It was prednisone, prescribed by an ent for chronic ear infections that took me over the line to total deafness.. Allopathic medicine very hard to steer away accepted medical practice.. regardless of weather it works or not.. This is an example of something that doesn't work and in fact causes more harm and yet,,, Dr's are still being very quick with the pen in writing scripts for antibiotics and steroids.. If you want your daughter to recover from these infection ,, get her off of the antibiotics and steroids.. You will find more success treating with colloidal silver ,food grade or pharmaceutical grade hydrogen peroxide.. These are what worked for me but it was too late to help with the hearing loss.. I had already wasted a year following the advice of allopathic Dr.s and was com[pletely deaf before I solved this mystery..

WHAT IS AN ANTIBIOTIC?An antibiotic is any substance produced by a microorganism, i.e. bacteria or fungi, that it sends outside it's cell to harm or kill another microorganism(4). The benefit is easy to see. If an organism is able to produce chemicals that inhibit or kill other nearby organisms, it has an advantage in competing for local resources.

Technically, antibiotics are microbial or fungal products. But we are able to synthesize and mass produce these chemical substances in the laboratory to use against harmfull microorganisms in our environment. There is a distinction between natural and synthetic antibiotics, but in practice most drugs used to combat microbial and fungal infections are grouped under the general heading "antibiotics"(5).
 
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MissAspergillusNiger replied to Billdaddy's response:


I have been fighting for my life against Aspergillus Niger. I have been sick for 3 years, and diagnosed June 16, 2012. Food grade 3% hydrogen peroxide has saved my life so far and I am still in battle. I went to the hospital this year with a swollen ear and neck. They admitted me and administered liquid antibiotics which caused fungi to grow out of my ear. They Baker Acted me for using Hydrogen Peroxide in my condition while they watched it grow and sent me home. Do not talk to doctors about this is my opinion. Anyone is welcome to call me and I would very much like to speak with You, Billdaddy. Because of the "Baker Act", I do not wish to share details, but I will speak with anyone I can help about the details of what I do for treatment. Along with soaking HP in my ears, the HP Inhalation Method has restored my lost voice and stopped blister bump breakouts on my body. I also am killing the catastrophic multitude of diseases I've taken on with DoTerra essential oil. My phone number is 561-336-1007.


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