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My boyfriend now of four years has been great. He has 2 boys that live with us and 2 older girls that are nearly my age living on their own one already has 2 babies and married. We both have a lot in common I chuck that up to me growing up so fast and not being the typical 26 year old.( Give me a rocking chair on the porch vs the shot on some strangers belly anytime. )
The only main issue I have came to terms with that is really frustrating is the lack of sex. It was great the first 2 years. Then all hell happened. He lost his job of 21 years to bankruptcy we lost our dream home we just signed on and he is still currently jobless fighting this economy. He is always stressed yet never shows it. I have a nympho hell who isnt at my age? But thats the one dept he has no concern about. He is content being sexless and it is never on his mind. Ive been turned down so many times I have no self esteem left and feel like I am the problem. I am just at a lost trying to cope with this. I dont want another sexless relationship. Seems every serious relationship after 2 years it all goes to hell. Anyone have any suggestions? Besides just masturbation...you know that gets really old and boring. But thats my main issue SEX! I'd rather deal with his ADD 24/7 then deal with no sex. Which btw...he refuses medication or to admit its any other issue but stress...yet wont do anything to help it. Maybe he enjoys the misery?
Thank you
You are going to have to talk to him, lay it all out on the table, and tell him how serious this is for you. Are you willing to stay in the relationship if he refuses to seek help? Are you willing to be patient and give him time to recoup his losses and pull himself back together?
These are questions you have to ask yourself, and be honest with him about. I'm a firm believer that tough times should bring you closer not drive you apart, but at the same time I've seen firsthand how difficult that is to actually put into action. Compassion goes a long way but at some point something is going to have to give one way or the other.
When you're depressed, everything is an effort and nothing is enjoyable, so sex is probably at the bottom of the list of things that he feels like doing.
Before getting his current job, my husband was out of work for about nine months and I could see him getting more and more depressed every week. It's not just financial worries, or being unemployed, but the constant feeling of rejection when you keep applying for jobs and don't even get a phone call, much less a job offer. It destroys the ego and is completely demoralizing. It makes you feel worthless.
Also, losing a job after so many years must have really shaken your boyfriend. When you work at one place for a long time, you feel a sense of security that is completely and permanently taken away from you when you lose that job. He's always going to be fearful that whatever job he gets can be pulled out from under him at any time.
I don't know if he would be at all interested in doing this, but you might suggest that he volunteer somewhere. It's something that can give him a feeling of satisfaction when he doesn't have a job to go to, but it's also a great way to make contacts. There are a lot of business leaders involved in non-profits, and it can be a valuable networking tool.
If you can stick it out until he's able to get a job, you will probably find that there will be improvements in all parts of your life. As Steph said, though, you need to ask yourself some questions about whether you are willing to wait.
You.
So, look at your behavior after two years. Are you still making an effort appearance-wise? Are you still engaged in the relationship, being an active listener and a dynamic part of your chemistry? Besides initiating, which hasn't been working and leads to a vicious cycle of rejection and feelings of neglect, what else have you done? Have you discussed with him how dissatisfied with him? Have you seen a sex-positive or specifically sex related therapist? Would you consider that? Is he satisfied with your sex when you have it?
If he's refusing to seek medical attention for his ADD, does that mean he's typically opposed to doctors in general? Maybe getting a check-up would be good for him, to see if there's some medical reason to explain his disinterest. Is he overweight? Is he otherwise unhealthy?
I don't think you can possibly overestimate the amount of stress he's going through. What are you doing to contribute to that stress going away? Are you working? Are you doing an even amount of chores? Are you kind to him when he talks to you? Do you help initiate conversations about your financial situation with possible solutions? If not, maybe if you took a more active interest in the things that are stressing him out would make him feel more comforted by you.
Not to be an ass, but he's not going to get any younger. His libido could be waning simply because it's not as important to him. He could just be comfy in the relationship, and for him it could equate to less sex. For some people, it does. Are you prepared to stay with him if he's just not interested?
Best of luck. I think the age difference is less significant than his stress levels, and I think a good conversation would only do you both some good.
This is a very private problem, between you and your boyfriend. You shouldn't be going around talking to a bunch of people about it. Imagine how humiliating it would be to him to find out that so many people know that he isn't interested in sex. You can bet that the people you're talking to are going to tell other people. If the situation were reversed, would you want to be the subject of gossip among his friends?
I can understand your talking to, perhaps, your best friend, if you know that she won't tell anyone else. Anything else shows a lack of respect for your boyfriend and your relationship.
43 is young. I'm 58, have severe heart disease, or did as of 5 years ago, and have an extreme diet and careful exercise to try to heal myself.
Libido ? I don't react instantly like I used to do seeing a beautiful woman. But behind closed doors, my 48 year old wife of 20 years has NO desire to give me up; no desire for any other lover.
Sex is at least free. When husband can't look for a job, or study for one, he needs to relax and chill. I can't imagine a better treat at home than an "interested" wife your age. He's blessed and missing it.
Maybe he needs one of those "count your blessings" sessions, to realize what he still has and what else there is that could go wrong. Maybe help him with that. If you're not living out of a car, and getting food from behind restaurants, life is not so terrible. And there are people who live that way because they can.
Your relationships should not just "go south". My two long relationships have been 7 and 22 years. The only time there was diminished sex was when I was ill or upset with my partner over her behavior or language toward me. Even then , things were nearly always better inside of a week, and resumed intimacy that was always at least a few times a week, very often daily for months at a time.
Go to bed early, be well rested, your husband, too. Avoid being negative, take care of your bodies with exercise and healthier foods, and the libido should return, possibly with a vengance.
If without a job, healthier food like fruit is not expensive, some fruit is free for the picking. Exercise costs nothing as gyms are not mandatory, and sex is free too, except maybe condoms and birth control. You both have available free entertainment for two. If he's having trouble with an erection, ask him for oral sex. He'll please you, and very likely discover his arousal in the process. Always works for me.
Be patient, be supportive, laugh and love when you can. If you're both home, he should be "taking care of you" whenever he can and you have the desire.
What should he eat ? Less meat, very little fat, more colorful fruit, especially berries and pomegranates, pistachios. They might seem expensive, but bypass surgery from my HMO was a $30,000 bill I did not have to pay. Don't buy bad stuff, just get the good stuff, and you just may also get your man back. Those foods can make that big a difference, though not instantly.
The main question was...Are you willing to stay in a sexless relationship....considering 2 years of waiting I am turning to no if he doesn't help himself soon. I paid for all his health care and bills to help him through his "depression" and ADD. I bought the kids christmas and such because his @ home job does not bring in nearly enough money. I work a very stressful job in health Insurance and simply my de stresser is sex.
I don't feel guilty after waiting so long to say no I need sex and I'm sorry I love you but bye. As he would say "I wouldn't blame you" When I hear stuff like that it really dampers stuff like he wishes I would leave so that he didn't have to deal with it.
Ive learned that everyone has typically blamed me in the relationship for its downfalls. Everyone feels sorry for the 43 year old man that lost his 21 year job. I get that but 2 years later that should not be it at all. I am 26 and working 60 hour weeks to make sure the kids are cared for *mind you these are not my children* and that the house is taken care of.
But these are my issues to deal with I guess. My decisions to make.
I just appreciate yall giving input. Thank you.
I feel sorry for your husband for what he's going through. But he has to hear from you what his lack of attention/affection/sex is doing to your self-esteem and to your feelings about the marriage. Lay it out to him, and be completely honest.
You also have a lot on your plate, and I can completely understand why coming home to a loving husband and having a close intimate relationship would be a huge stress reliever for you.
I just want to comment on this: "Everyone feels sorry for the 43 year old man that lost his 21 year job. I get that but 2 years later that should not be it at all." I'm sure it's much worse for him after two years. Imagine 2 years of feeling worthless because you don't have a job and can't support your children. Two years of trying to find a job and being rejected. Imagine how worthless and hopeless you would feel after two years of that. The longer it goes on, the bigger toll it's going to take on him. Being unemployed longer isn't going to somehow make him feel better -- he's not going to get used to it and suddenly feel fine about it.
You put "depression" in quotes, which makes me feel that you don't take it very seriously.
Don't dismiss the impact of being unemployed for two years. You can be sure that he hates the way his life is right now, and he's not any happier about his loss of interest in sex than you are.
All that said, you're certainly entitled to leave if you're unhappy, and it sounds like you've done a lot of good things for him.
And it is a persons fault when they notice an overreaching pattern in their relationships. If, in every single relationship, you find one thing happening over and over again, yeah maybe you're just lucky/unlucky, but I think it's rather disingenuous to say "Well, it's gotta be them" every single time. And the way I took the post was that every relationship the OP had been in, the sex had petered out after two years.
Again, it doesn't sound like this is the case here, and I probably did misinterpret her post. But crap relationships are like a symptom of disease sometimes. A person can keep breaking up and moving on, getting rid of the symptom. But if there is an underlying "sickness"- low self-esteem, poor decision-making, not wanting to try, being mean or something, a person might just wind up perpetuating the same patterns.
How old are his children? Are they old enough to get jobs and help out? If so, I'd make that an ultimatum as of yesterday.
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