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    This Exchange simulates the original Couples Coping Support Group. It is designed to help persons with concerns in their relationships, family, marriage, seperation, divorce, etc.Offering a wide range of real world, personal experiences, information, knowledge, suggestions, & views from real people.
    Confession 8/2 thru 8/7 Who likes there job? Are you a good employee? Self Employed?
    GuardSquealer posted:
    Just curious about how many people really like their job? Do you think you are a good employee? If you are Self Employed do you like that better? Work harder for yourself that for someone else?

    I never have really "liked" this job. I took it when I was laid off from another job. I was down to selling my house and going back to school or working here. Obviously I made the wrong choice. But our daughter had just been born and it seemed logical at the time.

    At all my other jobs I had always been a go getter. I was always looking for the next promotion or raise. And trying to take on more responsibilities. But being in a union changes all of that. That socialist approach to work can ruin a good employee. Everyone gets the same raises no matter how hard they work, or how good of an employee they are. Promotions within the union jobs are based on seniority, so you just have to hang around long enough to get one of them. 18 years hasn't been long enough, by the way.

    And actually the union is really just beneficial if you are a bad employee. The ones that don't like to come to work, or that are lazy are the ones that benefit most from the union negotiated benefits. It gets frustrating when you come in and bust your butt, and someone that never comes to work, and when they do they don't do anything, gets the same recognition.

    Then the individuals that do get promoted to the supervisory positions outside of the union pretty much just have to know the right people. There is no logic in who they promote. And then if you did want to take one of those positions you are subject to management descretion as to what days off you have and the shift you work. So after a couple of years I quit applying for any of those jobs. I at least want to pick my shift and days off.

    So I guess I am now a bad employee. I call off whenever I need the day off. We used to be able to request days off in advance, but they changed the rules on how that it is done, so it is easier to just call off sick. The other thing that has changed things is FMLA. It makes calling off so easy that a large amount of the people here have it and abuse it.

    And when I am here, I pretty much resent being asked to do anything. I used to volunteer for stuff. But now I get mad if I have to get out of my chair.

    I definitely work much harder for myself, and have a completely different work ethic at home. I bust my butt for myself. And don't mind working 16 hours a day everyday. I guess just being able to see the results of my hard work make that worth while.
    longduckdong46 responded:
    I tend to agree with you for the most part, although I am not in a union shop. I have studied the pattern of the slacker employees in depth, and as soon as they have the time on their stubs you can count on a call off.
    I believe this goes with the attitude of todays workers overall and the work ethic of " entitlement " The folks that do show up usually have to do the work of two.
    FMLA has been an employers nightmare and leads to poor production, thus jobs moving overseas where anyone feels blessed to have a job and be a provider.
    I have heard stories of UAW workers being intoxicated on the job, sitting their entire shift in the breakroom, and sleeping all the while receing full pay and benefits. The union saves their behinds each time. It is virtually impossible to fire a union employee.
    I don't want to bash all those that bargain because there are some top notch workers but unions have outlived their existance.
    candy352 responded:
    I like my job for the most part. Sometimes some of the clients can irk me. I work with individuals with disabilities to help them enter or re-enter the workforce. Lately though, I have really been considering being a stay at home mom. It may be because I'm pregnant with my first child and am ready to spend as much time as possible with him or her. But until the day that I can work or stay at home, I'm going to continue to be happy with my job. It does give me some satisfaction.
    Anmar22 responded:
    I have a great job that I'm lucky to have. Good pay, benefits, and room for growth. I work long hours but in return I get long weekends. The problem I have is that I would rather be at home taking care of my kids. I get my work done and I'm here everyday because I need the pay check. I spend a lot of time talking to friends and reading webmd because there's not always a lot of work to be done. There are days (few and far between) that I do stay busy, I like those days because the time goes by quickly and I feel productive.
    fcl responded:
    I am lucky in that, in all the various places I have worked, I only ever had one job that I didn't like - and that was more about the working conditions rather than the actual job. I have always done things that I wanted to do. And I have always gone above and beyond the call of duty (no doubt because I liked my job so much ). These days I'm freelance so I get the best from both worlds - I like what I do and I do it for ME - lol.
    There's nothing inherently dirty about sex, but if you try real hard and use your imagination you can overcome that.
    summer_is_here responded:
    You are sooo right. Can you imagine if our whole country was run like most unions. No incentive for improvement. I encourage you that even though there is no reward for being a good worker you do build up habbits and a good work ethic that will stay with you when you leave your current job and will be with you when you are not at work.

    I like my job. However I do not look at a job as something that gives me an identity. I did when I was younger. It used to be if I had a bad day at work that meant a bad day at home not anymore. My job is a small part of my life. My faith and my family define who I am anymore. My esteem is built more around who I am.

    I spend alot of time studying the elderly. Looking at what they value. Additionally as I get older I attend more funerals. I have yet to see on a tombstone "he was great worker, faithful employee, and had a good job."
    gd9900 responded:
    I enjoy the work I do to make a living. My work is challenging and I'm constantly learning new things. Its part of why I chose to work in this field. I also like the people I work with.

    The company I work for is a well established mom & pop gone corporate. The owners are fantastic people and give a lot to our community - the corporate "attitude" hasn't caught up with them over the years. But the change in dynamics of running small business to corporation has made it much harder to share better benefits for the employees. Not that the benefits are bad, I wouldn't want to give up what I have. These past few years the recession has held back any raises and there have been many job cuts. I take pride in my work and provide timely turn arounds, but the reward of a paycheck every week doesn't always inspire me go above and beyond. Funny, it wasn't so long ago I was highly motivated to do that on my own.

    I think part of me feels I've paid my dues working for the man and I want something more. I don't mean the company owes me, but I am thinking about a change of scenery. Kinda like what Guard's recent posts have alluded to. All I've really figured out is I'm not getting any younger and I would like to have more time and money to enjoy things in life before I'm no longer able to. I'm tired of living paycheck to paycheck, and in general worrying about money. It takes away from the joy of earning it.
    stephs_3_kidz responded:
    Well, I like my job. I hate that I feel so tied to it all the time. As in, since I'm home I feel like I must be constantly "doing" something. Cleaning. Cooking. Reorganizing. I just need to learn to let things go and only dust twice a week instead of every day.

    I love being with my kids. I hope I do a good job. I keep them well-fed, clean, we play a lot. I love them more than anything in this world.

    I know when I worked outside the home I loved my job, then grew to despise it but I still busted my butt and did my best because that's the standard I hold myself to. I was very valued as an employee and I left a good impression on my employers even as I left to be a SAHM.
    tlkittycat1968 responded:
    I like my job and the work I do but there are two co-workers I don't get. You can pretty much count on one or both of them calling in sick on Mondays and/or Fridays. I'm usually the first one in the office and I've memorized their numbers on the caller ID they've called in sick so often. A co-worker left and one of the people mentioned above took over her duties and I took over his. I wonder what he did all day because his work that I now do takes me maybe half a day, usually less. I manage to get my "real" work done along with his old duties and still have time left in the day.

    I've always like my work but occasionally haven't been able to stand either co-workers or the supervisor. Left two jobs because of the supervisor and left one because of the co-workers.
    cfisk responded:
    Yes, the great days of labor unions are long gone! They certainly served a valuable purpose at one point, back in the early twentieth century.

    I'm not going to disagree about how union membership can create waste and apathy. That definitely does happen. Sometimes unions can be worthwhile, though.

    I have a friend who has worked for UPS for at least 20 years. I think every UPS worker is required to join the Teamsters Union. He's been to a few union meetings and says the union officials are "buffoons," but there is some benefit to being a member of the Teamsters.

    UPS has a bunch of rules that you have to follow and they're very clear that if you break certain rules and you're caught, it is grounds for automatic firing. For example, if you get caught driving drunk, you can be fired immediately.

    However, UPS management cannot just arbitrarily fire someone for no reason. That's where the protection of the Teamsters comes in. The shop steward will come in to talk to management to find out why the person is being fired and management has to provide a substantial reason and prove it. So there is some job protection there and in this age of recession and unemployment, just hanging onto a full-time decent-paying job is crucial.

    Also, the Teamsters have protected the pension. Pensions are going the way of the dinosaur because they cost so much for a corporation to pay out, but employees love 'em. My friend is looking forward to the day when he's worked enough years to earn the full pension. He's getting close. He's in his early 50s and he'll qualify for the full pension in just a few years and then he can retire from UPS, draw the full pension, and he won't have to worry about earning any more money and he can do what he wants. If it weren't for the Teamsters, UPS would have ditched that pension long ago.

    There is a little bit of individual incentive built into the job. When the Christmas shipping season rolls around, he works extra hours because UPS is dealing with such a high volume of packages during December. He really socks away a lot of extra money because those extra hours are at "overtime" rates, higher than the regular hourly rate.
    Plus, he's motivated to develop a good business relationship with the customers on his route. At the end of the year, a lot of those customers give him tips so he rakes in a lot of tip money around Christmastime, along with the overtime pay.
    3point14 responded:
    I now get to say I like both of my jobs I like being an Optician. The corporation I work for is evil and awful, but the direct people I work with are wonderful. My manager really goes to bat for us, and one of my co-workers has turned ino a really good friend. There's a ton of room for growth, and new stuff to learn all the time, just through the company and through the fields' changing technology. I get paid alright money, get to dress well, and learn a lot.

    The second job I started this past weekend is pretty fun so far too. Doing catering for a restaurant, and a lot of it is doing meals for a semi-local military base. It's constantly on my feet, but the people seem pretty alright and the pay is actually semi-ridiculous considering that it doesn't bother me to be face-paced. Yesterday was my first full shift at the base and the people were patient and the work was easy...I also got paid to oogle soldiers all day, which made the time go by like nothing.

    I believe strongly in being a good employee. My jobs really don't make me me, but my ability to complete tasks that I'm given does define me as a person. I'm not one to be half-assed in general, so I think it would be insane to be half-assed about something that so impacts my life.
    alaska_mommy responded:
    When I was still in the work force, I only had one job I really liked, that was in a little medical clinic in Alaska when we still lived there, prior to the birth of our son. I liked it the most because it was busy enough to keep me going, but not so crazy I was running off my feet all day. I got to feel competent and smart, and also I loved the ladies I worked with. I think I could do just about any job so long as I had coworkers that I enjoyed talking to and interacting with. And I have found that to be true--I even worked cleaning toilets in college and I found that fun because the crew I worked with were fun people.

    As a SAHM, I am not completely happy, and that is only because of the lack of social interaction. The rest of this "job" I am completely happy with--it is what I always envisioned myself doing when I grew up. I think all I need to do is find the perfect balance of away-from-home-time and home-with-the-kid-time to really be perfectly happy where I am right now.
    Foreverinyoureyes2 responded:
    I adore my job!

    It is challenging and satisfying. I have found ways to be very efficient at it, and therefore have been exteremely successful. I am offered a lot of special project work, and that keeps me interested and invested in doing a really good job.

    The benefits are outstanding, the pay is generous and the management staff is supportive and encouraging.

    And as an added bonus, my 2 best friends in the whole world work with me, in the same department.

    I honest to God do not have 1 complaint about my job.

    I actually have only had 1 job in my entire life that I didn't love, and I only worked there for a few weeks. I realized it wasn't a good fit right away, and immediately began a job search for something more suitable for me.

    I realize that I am very lucky to have such a positive work environment. Part of the reason that I think I am able to maintain such a positive experience is that one of my best friends is a Supervisor in our department, therefore I am not included in any gossip sessions or complaint sessions or that sort of thing. I am glad that this is the case, because I am insuslated from the bad attitudes and office politics that I see miring down some of my co-workers. I just do my job, and go home.

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