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No More Internet Anonymity?
Olivia_WebMD_Staff posted:
I just read that lawmakers are proposing legislation that would put an end to anonymous posting on the Internet .
How do you all feel about that?
How do you all feel about that?
19 Replies |Watch This Discussion | Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?I just read that lawmakers are proposing legislation that would put an <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mashable.com/2012/05/23/internet-anonymity/">end to anonymous posting on the Internet</a> . <br /> <br />How do you all feel about that?
bobby75703 responded:
This is something I would expect from Castro, or North Korea, should the internet ever be allowed there.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?This is something I would expect from Castro, or North Korea, should the internet ever be allowed there.
Demons2011 responded:
The Federal Gov., is and has been eroding our basic rights for quite some time. I'm wondering if the Federalist Papers would be published today? Give the current guide lines.
Without picking on gays - it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there.
Without picking on gays - it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?The Federal Gov., is and has been eroding our basic rights for quite some time. I'm wondering if the Federalist Papers would be published today? Give the current guide lines. <br /><br />Without picking on gays - it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there.
3point14 responded:
I'm fine with it. Anonymity is mostly an illusion anyway.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?I'm fine with it. Anonymity is mostly an illusion anyway.
Kate_Te replied to Demons2011's response:
Demons2011-
" it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there."
Exactly what I'd expect a white heterosexual male to say. Did you know that in many states, you can lose your job & apartment for being gay or transgendered? If you can explain to me why a group of American citizens who have broken no laws are legally discriminated against, I'd love to hear it.
" it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there."
Exactly what I'd expect a white heterosexual male to say. Did you know that in many states, you can lose your job & apartment for being gay or transgendered? If you can explain to me why a group of American citizens who have broken no laws are legally discriminated against, I'd love to hear it.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?Demons2011-<br />" it seems there are enough laws to protect each of us without having specialized laws for one group or another. Just go back to the constitution, it's all there."<br />Exactly what I'd expect a white heterosexual male to say. Did you know that in many states, you can lose your job & apartment for being gay or transgendered? If you can explain to me why a group of American citizens who have broken no laws are legally discriminated against, I'd love to hear it.
jenlewi responded:
Taking away internet anonymity is probably the best way to end cyber bullying, because the lowlifes can't hide their identity. It would also expose and hopefully control the cyber-trolls who ruin many message boards with multiple anonymous user names talking to eachother to make it seem like their idiotic posts have great support. If, in some way, it also slowed or stopped cyber-stalking, that would be even better. Of course, the point behind the law is to make it easier to catch and prosecute criminals who use the internet for their criminal activities, such as kiddie porn and on-line prostitutes. I see lots of upsides to this, without downsides for anyone who uses the internet legitimately.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?Taking away internet anonymity is probably the best way to end cyber bullying, because the lowlifes can't hide their identity. It would also expose and hopefully control the cyber-trolls who ruin many message boards with multiple anonymous user names talking to eachother to make it seem like their idiotic posts have great support. If, in some way, it also slowed or stopped cyber-stalking, that would be even better. Of course, the point behind the law is to make it easier to catch and prosecute criminals who use the internet for their criminal activities, such as kiddie porn and on-line prostitutes. I see lots of upsides to this, without downsides for anyone who uses the internet legitimately.
FCL responded:
I'd be interested in seeing how that would pan out. IMO, people who want their anonymity respected would simply move to sites based in places where it would be thus depriving (in this case) New York based sites of a source of revenue. Economically, it could be crippling.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?I'd be interested in seeing how that would pan out. IMO, people who want their anonymity respected would simply move to sites based in places where it would be thus depriving (in this case) New York based sites of a source of revenue. Economically, it could be crippling.
Dollbug responded:
Personally I think the government should concentrate on more important issues...I think there is quite enough for them to worry about instead of the internet. I do not think this will ever happen anyway...as with anything else people will find a way to continue posting without someone knowing who it might be...
Perhaps they should have thought about this long before we had the internet...I do feel like the internet has a lot of good information when it is used like it is supposed to be....people abuse the internet though just like they abuse other systems..
As everyone is aware...there are so many things which are out of control..and the government wnat to control
this....in a perfect world perhaps...but not in this one...
Perhaps the Washington leaders should take a look at what they have done so far...and figure out how they can improve our country without overstepping their boundaries...
We should be a country united....and we should make sure that the US Constitution is followed...they need to find ways to stop the abuse of the system....America needs to stop trying to save the world...when we are having problems saving our own country...
Perhaps they should have thought about this long before we had the internet...I do feel like the internet has a lot of good information when it is used like it is supposed to be....people abuse the internet though just like they abuse other systems..
As everyone is aware...there are so many things which are out of control..and the government wnat to control
this....in a perfect world perhaps...but not in this one...
Perhaps the Washington leaders should take a look at what they have done so far...and figure out how they can improve our country without overstepping their boundaries...
We should be a country united....and we should make sure that the US Constitution is followed...they need to find ways to stop the abuse of the system....America needs to stop trying to save the world...when we are having problems saving our own country...
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?<b>Personally I think the government should concentrate on more important issues...I think there is quite enough for them to worry about instead of the internet. I do not think this will ever happen anyway...as with anything else people will find a way to continue posting without someone knowing who it might be...</b><br /><b></b> <br /><b>Perhaps they should have thought about this long before we had the internet...I do feel like the internet has a lot of good information when it is used like it is supposed to be....people abuse the internet though just like they abuse other systems..</b><br /><b></b> <br /><b>As everyone is aware...there are so many things which are out of control..and the government wnat to control </b><br /><b>this....in a perfect world perhaps...but not in this one...</b><br /><b></b> <br /><b>Perhaps the Washington leaders should take a look at what they have done so far...and figure out how they can improve our country without overstepping their boundaries...</b><br /><b></b> <br /><b>We should be a country united....and we should make sure that the US Constitution is followed...they need to find ways to stop the abuse of the system....America needs to stop trying to save the world...when we are having problems saving our own country...</b>
Demons2011 replied to Kate_Te's response:
Kate_Te,
Those laws should be struck down by the Supreme Court. Without the polarizing comments you chose to use. It's already in the constitution in various forms and formats. Just like the interment of the Japanese Americans - shouldn't and might not have happened if FDR hadn't stacked the court. There shouldn't be laws which separate us into categories Leads to more polarization, instead of inclusion. .
Sorry I can't undo the past injustices - it was the times and people and mindsets of the times. Glad to see them changing but look at what a mess these specialized laws create. (Both sides.)
Those laws should be struck down by the Supreme Court. Without the polarizing comments you chose to use. It's already in the constitution in various forms and formats. Just like the interment of the Japanese Americans - shouldn't and might not have happened if FDR hadn't stacked the court. There shouldn't be laws which separate us into categories Leads to more polarization, instead of inclusion. .
Sorry I can't undo the past injustices - it was the times and people and mindsets of the times. Glad to see them changing but look at what a mess these specialized laws create. (Both sides.)
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?Kate_Te,<br />Those laws should be struck down by the Supreme Court. Without the polarizing comments you chose to use. It's already in the constitution in various forms and formats. Just like the interment of the Japanese Americans - shouldn't and might not have happened if FDR hadn't stacked the court. There shouldn't be laws which separate us into categories Leads to more polarization, instead of inclusion. . <br /><br />Sorry I can't undo the past injustices - it was the times and people and mindsets of the times. Glad to see them changing but look at what a mess these specialized laws create. (Both sides.)
Kate_Te replied to Demons2011's response:
Demons2011-
There are not laws that allow these things to happen, it is just that there is no law against it. For example, if you live in a state that does not include the phrase "sexual orientation" in their Equal Employment laws, then it is perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay. That person could sue, but since it is not illegal, they will not win. Same goes for a states Equal Housing laws, without protection a landlord can legally evict someone for being gay.
These aren't past injustices they happen every day in America, to Americans who have broken no laws, done nothing wrong, except love someone others think is inappropriate.
These aren't special rights, they are human rights, the one's guaranteed in the Constitution, but for some reason (usually religious based) are being denied to law abiding American citizens.
Kate
There are not laws that allow these things to happen, it is just that there is no law against it. For example, if you live in a state that does not include the phrase "sexual orientation" in their Equal Employment laws, then it is perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay. That person could sue, but since it is not illegal, they will not win. Same goes for a states Equal Housing laws, without protection a landlord can legally evict someone for being gay.
These aren't past injustices they happen every day in America, to Americans who have broken no laws, done nothing wrong, except love someone others think is inappropriate.
These aren't special rights, they are human rights, the one's guaranteed in the Constitution, but for some reason (usually religious based) are being denied to law abiding American citizens.
Kate
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?Demons2011-<br />There are not laws that allow these things to happen, it is just that there is no law against it. For example, if you live in a state that does not include the phrase "sexual orientation" in their Equal Employment laws, then it is perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay. That person could sue, but since it is not illegal, they will not win. Same goes for a states Equal Housing laws, without protection a landlord can legally evict someone for being gay. <br /><br />These aren't past injustices they happen every day in America, to Americans who have broken no laws, done nothing wrong, except love someone others think is inappropriate. <br /><br />These aren't special rights, they are human rights, the one's guaranteed in the Constitution, but for some reason (usually religious based) are being denied to law abiding American citizens.<br /><br />Kate
TRS1960 replied to bobby75703's response:
Or Obama
An_245623 replied to Demons2011's response:
unfortunately it is not all there, the constitution does not include our rights, hence the bill of rights, also why our constitution allows for amendments.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?unfortunately it is not all there, the constitution does not include our rights, hence the bill of rights, also why our constitution allows for amendments.
Iocasta responded:
As I read the proposed statute, it doesn't end anonymity per se. It does give those that feel like an anonymous poster is bullying, causing trouble . . the ability to make the web host to either remove the post or give the anonymous the ability to out him or herself in order to preserve the alleged wrongful post. This is a world of difference from your statement of "no more internet anonymity."
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?As I read the proposed statute, it doesn't end anonymity per se. It does give those that feel like an anonymous poster is bullying, causing trouble . . the ability to make the web host to either remove the post or give the anonymous the ability to out him or herself in order to preserve the alleged wrongful post. This is a world of difference from your statement of "no more internet anonymity."
and where do you think making "the web host to either remove the post to give the anonymous the ability to out him or herself in order to preserve the alleged wrongful post" lead to?
when websites are faced with honoring the anonymity of their users or paying a government fine or worse, risk being shut down, do you think your "locasta" user name will get to remain?
the wording in this legislation is purposely worded to suggest internet anonymity will remain; the intent of this legislation is to end it. and the effect, if passed, will be just that.
when websites are faced with honoring the anonymity of their users or paying a government fine or worse, risk being shut down, do you think your "locasta" user name will get to remain?
the wording in this legislation is purposely worded to suggest internet anonymity will remain; the intent of this legislation is to end it. and the effect, if passed, will be just that.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?and where do you think making "the web host to either remove the post to give the anonymous the ability to out him or herself in order to preserve the alleged wrongful post" lead to?<br /><br />when websites are faced with honoring the anonymity of their users or paying a government fine or worse, risk being shut down, do you think your "locasta" user name will get to remain? <br /><br />the wording in this legislation is purposely worded to suggest internet anonymity will remain; the intent of this legislation is to end it. and the effect, if passed, will be just that.
So how do you think this will work on an international level? Do you think that countries where anonymity is still respected will refuse US posters? I doubt it. How will US legislation forbid US citizens to post on foreign sites? I doubt there are enough resources to go after them - there are more important fish to fry, like catching internet pedophiles for a start.
Report This| Share this:No More Internet Anonymity?So how do you think this will work on an international level? Do you think that countries where anonymity is still respected will refuse US posters? I doubt it. How will US legislation forbid US citizens to post on foreign sites? I doubt there are enough resources to go after them - there are more important fish to fry, like catching internet pedophiles for a start.
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