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Type 1 Diabetes+high blood pressure+high cholestral
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tamicatz posted:
My son is 21 he became a type 1 diabetic at the age of 4, when he was growing up he/we took good care of himself until he became a teen he got into some trouble and had to spend 2 years in a youth program, he got out when he was 18 and thats when he started NOT taking care of himself. He was diagnosed with high blood pressure and high cholestral about a month ago he also has high liver #s. He has no insurance so he goes to a low income clinic his dr. there is trying to get him into a specialists group but that could take time. He still isnt taking very good care of himself, his blood sugars run in the 200 to 300 on a daily basis, he doesnt like to take pills so he doesnt take his other meds for high blood pressure & cholestral on a reuglar basis. He has trouble holding down a job because hes sick all the time, for about 2 1/2 years he was in the hospital on average 3 times a month. He hasnt been in the hospital for about 1 month now but hes come close a few times. I just dont know what to do to help him anymore when he wont help himself. He knows what can happen if he DOESNT take all his meds but he still wont. He says his side hurts often and I dont know if hes using that as an excuse or if theres something really wrong with his liver. He has had tons of blood work and an ultra sound done on his liver and all we know is his #s are high and his liver is larger that normal.
Any advice would be greatly apperciated. If u need more info let me know.
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Caprice_WebMD_Staff responded:
Hi Tamicatz,

I'm sure others will be responding so I hope you'll keep checking back here. I wanted to welcome you here. Our experts and members here have a lot to offer.
 
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laura2gemini2 responded:
If your son is 21, then there isnt much you can do to make him take care of himself. He has the ability, he just doesnt seem to want to. All you can do is tell him that when he decides he wants to start living instead of slowly killing himself, that you will be there to help.

Being young with diabetes is very hard, and I know it caused me to rebel some in college. One day it dawned on me (or, hit me over the head with a 2x4) that one day I was either going to die or something would happen that wouldnt be able to be fixed, and I would be in a bad way. Thankfully my mom was there when I hit that point.
 
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phototaker responded:
I can hear your pain over your son. As Laura says, there's not much you can do to get him to change his mind.

Possibly getting him some therapy might work. Did he get any in his youth program? Can you talk with one of the counselors there who may have a connection with your son, and can get him to get some more help?
 
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arealgijoe responded:
He NEEDs to be seeing a mental health professional or similar counseling. Problem is teens/young adults in this situation often need a serious life threatening, or near death situation/even before they WAKE UP.

Sounds like his liver problem needs more attention. Did they determine WHY his liver #s are too high adn liver enlarged?
Sounds to me the PAIN is likely REAL and needs to be delt with.

Gomer just my opinion......
 
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Laurie Anderson, MSN, RNP, CDOE responded:
Hi,

It is very fortunate that you laid the ground work for good control in his childhood. Although it may not seem like much now, early control and youth usually help type 1's get through the years of rebellion that typically occur somewhere between 16 and 25 years of age. Believe me, they almost all go through this, and they all survive. Eventually he'll decide he doesn't like feeling poorly and he'll start to think about better control. Here are a few suggestions that MAY help:

First, I believe that he's depressed; time in a youth facility and the almost "hand-in-hand" nature of diabetes and depression make it very likely. I love phototakers suggestion that a counselor he made a connection with before might be a good resource.

Second, you might try a few verbal strategies with him to make him think about how his decisions are affecting his health. For example, you might say, "I notice that you have a lot of pain in your side every day. Do you think that any of the choices you're making (not controlling diabetes, drinking alcohol) are making that pain worse? What do you think you could do differently to feel better? What would it take for you to do that? How can I help you? Do you remember when you had better control of your blood glucose? I remember that you felt good, had more energy, didn't have pain... etcetera." These are not threatening or blaming statements, but they are statements that often help to get people thinking differently. Just toss them out there, be supportive, and offer to help in any way that you can when he's ready.

Kind regards, Laurie
 
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tamicatz replied to phototaker's response:
Yes he got theraphy in the youth program but he says hes not depressed so he will not get any help and sence hes over 18 the counselors he had can not tell me anything and he refuses to talk to them.
 
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tamicatz replied to arealgijoe's response:
He refuses to get any theraphy...hes says hes not depressed or anything. Ive even tried having him commited on a 72 hour psych hold because in my opinion he is trying to kill himself but they say that he has not tried to commit suicide per-say so they refused to help...=(

The drs. we have been to cant figure out why his liver #s are so high or why his liver is enlarged they are trying to get him into a specialist group but he has to be accepted and that can take up to 6 months. It makes NO sence to me but I guess thats how it goes when someone doesnt have insurance and isnt eligable for medicade or anything!!!! Im just so frustrated with him AND with the medical system...grrrrrr
 
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tamicatz replied to Caprice_WebMD_Staff's response:
I just want to say thanks for being here, its sooooo frustrating going through this and until I found this page I really had nobody I could talk to about this that really understands and might be able to offer some help .
 
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phototaker replied to tamicatz's response:
Is there a possibility that he's drinking or using drugs? Why is his liver enlarged? Is he not eating and possibly drinking? This could be why he doesn't want to talk to counselors. They might be able to see something is wrong, and he doesn't want to face them.

Good luck, Laurie.
 
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Denial741974 responded:
  • maybe I can help. See I'm type II with the mental illness and learn disability. It's a struggle with me every day, but I realize something very important you can't do this alone. I even when rock-bottom and still over weight.I'm a lot like your son, what I'm trying to say I have a very hard time doing simple task. What help me. To get real with my mental illness and diabetes is to take action. And I've been seeing a lot of therapy to get real and therapists and psychiatrists,, but it wasn't easy for me. Everyone knows in the group it was a struggle, but am not perfect, but am trying hard eat right, exercise daily. I hope your son sees this post, I'm 36 and young to have diabetes,but I realize I want to live.trust me it's not easy having diabetes with the mental illness. It's a more struggle then people are normal with just a diabetes. Trust me it's not easy I struggle everyday to keep my mental illness under control if not I don't take care my diabetes, but I'm learning from the group and my friends who supports me. The main thing. You need a good support team, I'm lucky I have mom and my group, but my life was not easy grown-up, it was a struggle, but I can say now I can do it. Just put your mind to it and you can do anything you want. Even with someone with the learning learning disability and mental issues. I hope your son reads this,.You can do it.
no denial anymore in my health, it's a learning experience
 
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phototaker replied to Denial741974's response:
Den, thanks for reaching out to help this young man. Maybe, just maybe he'll read your attempt to help him help himself. Hopefully he will get the help he needs. As you know and have learned, you can't "make" someone do it.They have to WANT to get better themselves.

I'm glad you took the bull by the horns and continue to change the way you're doing things now, Bike Den!


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