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acraftykid posted:
Can blood sugar numbers be effected by drinking 70 - 80++oz of water everyday?

I'm a member of a fitness program where they say if you drink 64 oz of water every day to help lose weight. When I drink just 64 oz (plus or minus 1-3 oz) it does nothing for my weight. When I drink 70-84 ++ oz my weight drops. I've been drinking that much and over the last couple weeks my sugar has dived BIG time down to 51 - 41 or even a "LO" reading on my meter.

I am taking Metformin and Glipizide but have cut it down to 1/4 the amount prescribed. The Dr doesn't want to answer my question on the phone. I will be going in to see him in 3 weeks.

My question again does drinking alot of water cause a drastic drop in blood sugar numbers?

Thank you
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laura2gemini2 responded:
I would think your lows are caused more by your working out than by drinking water alone. Having low sugars (low enough that the meter doesnt read them) is dangerous, and your dr should address the situation...or you need a different dr.

I would suggest eating a snack before a major work out, something with both carbs and protein. That may help keep it level.
 
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xring responded:
It's possible that when you drink excess water, you're temporarily too full to eat enough.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I read that drinking ice cold water requires 100 calories to heat it up. That would not cause significant weight loss.

If you're dropping that low, you might need to lower your medication & waiting 3 weeks may be risky. Remember, low blood sugar is much more dangerous than high blood sugar.
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krhudson responded:
I would be sure to test blood sugar before the workout because in my case my sugar drops after 20 minutes to 1/2 hour and sometimes up to an 80 point drop. I use a small carry bag for chilling juice ( a cooler bag) and I put an ice block in it and 2 small bottles of Simply brand oj ( I just keep those bottles full of oj at all times) and use as needed.

Your blood sugar will drop more from the fitness for sure. The body tissues and muscles get major absorbtion of insulin escorting sugars into the cells burning the sugar to energy. It all happens rather quick especially when your on meds to help the process along.

Also be careful not to overcorrect with the juice and end up wih high blood sugar after the workout. Start with about 6 oz. if juice and check blood sugar when you get home to be sure you did not exceed about 120.

Always, when in doubt drink the juice. That is my Dr. always told me. I am a type 1 and can probably feel the insulin reaction coming on a little different than you but if you donot have the juice along for whatever you are doing it can be dangerous.

Also before you workout it may not be a bad idea to carb up a little. The body like a snack before a work out for something to burn off .

Keep us posted. You never know you maybe working your way off meds by eating right and working out and losing excess weight. Monitor with your Dr. carefully.

Good luck !

krhudson
 
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phototaker responded:
Today I ALSO swam for an hour.What's very interesting for me is that my blood sugar RISES very high when I do my intensive zumba class. In fact, tonight I stopped after 45 minutes. When I came home, I was at 171. That happened to me the other day too, and then I came down to 109. Tonight though, it stayed up there for a few hours. I'm not sure why. Right now, I'm at 140, still high. I don't understand why this intensive exercise keeps my blood sugar so high. I did eat "just" before I exercised at 6:30 P.M., and it's now 11:30 P.M. I'm going to have to watch this, and maybe not eat "before" I workout, or at least check my blood sugar before I workout. Remember, I'm not on medicine. I see how working out helps everyone else's blood sugar. It's discouraging, but I do know it's good for my heart to workout every day.

Betaquartz, you mentioned adrenalin. What does that do to the blood sugar numbers? Does it make it go higher? I DEFINITELY am dancing very heavily during zumba.
 
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phototaker replied to phototaker's response:
Okay, I just read a comment a diabetic Jazzercise teacher said when she talked to a nurse about her numbers going UP 50 points after she did an intensive exercise routine. The nurse said the release of glycogen and adrenaline are the cause of the blood sugar increase ("fight or flight" response). I'll going to do a little more research on this. Mine stayed too high tonight. Last time it didn't. Maybe what I ate "before" had something to do with it staying up there so long. I'll figure this out. Now I have to look up
"fight or flight" response.
 
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phototaker replied to phototaker's response:
Okay, for the ones who enjoy reading scientific things, here's what happens when you do intensive exercise or anything more dramatic, like being in a car accident, where adrenaline rushes.

Basically, it DOES raise blood sugar levels. I thought I was doing something wrong. For me, I need to eat either something really small, or nothing at all before exercise, as mine raises very high when I do zumba. I don't think I have to be concerned for my swim class or stationary bike. I'll try skipping dinner until afterward, and see what happens, and have something simple, like chicken or something like that afterward. I think Flutetooter mentioned that.

See what I mean about learning something new every day, and constantly having to monitor our diabetes. Each thing we do differently has to be checked. If I didn't check my blood sugar afterward, I wouldn't have known I go so high when I do my intensive exercise(I did feel the tingling in my legs, though). So people who play racketball, tennis, do marathons, dance heavily, and anything else where you are exerting yourself a lot, have to be careful. Type I diabetics or people on medicine that "lowers" your blood sugar levels DO have to eat something before and bring something along with you in case you go low. For me, it's the opposite. There's no one right answer. Each person has to monitor themselves and test to see what works the best for THEM.
 
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phototaker replied to phototaker's response:
Here's the site when I read about "Fight or Flight Response".

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/fight_flight/
 
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acraftykid responded:
I really appreciate all the responses so far on this. You were all responding on the information I gave you and I have found a lot to be good advise to follow and will.
A couple things were brought up that I feel I should clarify....
I am a Type II diabetic. The numbers diving are in the middle of the day - 2 - 3 or so hrs after taking my breakfast/morning medication. I usually work out in the evening after work. I've not felt any different after workouts other than sweaty and tired . I've never thought to take readings before or after a workout, so I don't have a clue of what they are, but will take the advise and start.
With no insurance - blood tests and Dr visits have almost become a luxury. The testing strips for the monitors as you know are not cheap either. I have gone to a Wal-Mart brand and that has helped with those costs. Somehow God always seems to find a way to help me through when it's needed.
When I drink my water the majority of the time - I'm to 64 oz by Noon and to 84 oz by 2 pm.
The frustrating thing about this disease is that it seems to effect everyone differently in one way or another.
I've been on this fitness program for 10 months - lost 25 #'s (goal of 65 total) and over 62 inches both good things. In the last few weeks I haven't worked out as much as before going from 3-4 x's per week to 1-2-3 x's per week.
I'm hoping and praying that it'll be a medication modification that will help on this but am monitoring very, VERY closely, realizing that it's almost "playing with fire" in waiting.
With all the clarification I've given - any other input on the question - does drinking alot of water cause drastic drop in blood sugar numbers?
Thank you
 
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phototaker replied to acraftykid's response:
I wish I could answer you about drinking water, am I'm looking forward to hearing other people's responses. I do know we all say that drinking lots of water helps when our numbers get higher.

"In my opinion"....and I'm not a doctor or know tons, it "seems" like the weight you've lost, PLUS all your great workout routines is stabilizing your blood sugar numbers, as well as adding medicine. I'm just "thinking" that maybe your doctor will put you down on your medicine routine.

Here's what I would do. I would test and chart(I know the strips are a lot...mine are free) for three separate days, your blood sugar numbers to show your doctor. Write in when you workout, things you ate. Then you can make a more informed decision whether to cut back on medicine. If mine continues doing this, I "may" have to think about medicine or give up my zumba, which I love. I don't like to see higher numbers...OR
I have to really cut back or change around what I'm eating.

That's what I mean about we can be in control of our own bodies...sometimes. For some people, their pancreas is not working as well, and they're not able to do this. Also, when you get sick, have a cortisone shot, take prednisone for asthma, are very anxious and worried about something, these things can affect your blood sugar. You just have to learn how to balance everything. It gets easier to monitor yourself. I do this by my test strips, not by my A1C. I test fasting in the morning, and 2 times during the day. You probably won't need to do this so much since you're on medicine. You also have to "listen" to your body. When I get sleepy or groggy or have tingling in my legs, I know I've had too many carbs. Some people who go low, get disoriented, feel weak, dizzy, etc. They could go in a coma in they go too low. With some type I diabetics, it can come on REALLY quickly.

I love when new people come on with questions. It made me check out Betaquartz's comment about adrenalin, and figure out why I've been getting some higher numbers sometimes after exercising. I've been SO frustrated about this since I've been so faithful to exercise this year. This explains it. Now to figure out a way around this with testing myself.

I do know that drinking a lot of water helps me. I drink A LOT of water especially during the time I exercise. My heart doctor told me this. I need to drink a lot more AFTER exercise.

I hope someone else has an answer for you about water. Have you thought about doing research on the web for this? That's what I do, too, if I'm not getting an answer.
 
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acraftykid replied to phototaker's response:
phototaker,
Everything you say makes so much sense. I find I accept and can process info easier when not given in an attitude of "I'm better than you". THANK YOU
I realize that everyone posting is not a Dr so I do as my mom told me years ago - "take the information with a grain of salt" or "consider the source". But it is great to get different points of view. so glad I found this community.
I've started to compile the history from my meter - it's amazing to see what effect my fitness program has had on the numbers. Eating right and exercising is making a huge impact. Who would of thunk it would? Duh
In answer of your last question - I have started to do more research on the net, but got a 'puter virus and is waiting to be fixed. Using what ever access I can get in the mean time.
 
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laura2gemini2 replied to phototaker's response:
I dont think the water is to blame. I do know that drinking lots of water dilutes the blood, which then dilutes the blood sugar readings...but your body would start dumping the excess water before things got too far, and it wouldnt change it by too much.

For me, when I work out, my lows dont happen for hours after I'm done. It may be due to your sugar starting to go down in the middle of the night (I dont remember how to spell what its called, so I'm not gonna try). If its on a down trend while you sleep, it may become low after you eat breakfast.

Also, it could be that you dont need the meds as much as you did when you weighed more.

With so many variables, I would definitly tell the dr to at least let you talk to someone who can give you some instruction on how to stop the lows. You definitly dont want to get too low.
 
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krhudson replied to acraftykid's response:
I have an example of what activity can do to blood sugars. I am type 1 on insulin. If I plan to clean house I cut the insulin back by about 2-3 units. I start cleaning the floors, vacuming etc.... I do all these things and it takes about 2.5 to 3 hours to do a good job. Even cutting back the insulin the blood sugar drops totally which means I have the oj on hand throughout everything. I will also say that even at dinner on a day that I clean house I still can have the dips all the way through the night which means less insulin at meals and even more carbs.

Usually by the next morning I take normal doses of insulin. The body loves activity. It is a big part of the whole picture. I honestly think through your workout routines now and changes since you first talked to the Dr., your meds will go down and while that happens just stick to lean protein, veggies and moderate fruits and moderate whole grains (not whole wheat) and tons of salad and you may see an entire change going on with the treatment.

I use the UP and UP meter from Target and the tests come out to about .32 cents a peice to maybe .36 cents when the strips are not on sale. The numbers show higher than the other meter I used but that is fine because I am more aggressive with my treatment and still avoid lows.

Keep drinking the water for kidney function. Kidneys love water! The water is not a problem that has an adverse effect on treatment of Diabetes ( at least I have never heard that after 35 years being Diabetic) and I do know that you have to keep flushing the protein from the kidneys. Kidneys in Diabetics can be effected by to much protein so anything you can do to flush constant is best. When the urine is close to clear you are drinking enough water.

Log your blood sugar tests fasting, 2 hours after a meal and before the next meal and bedtime. You can even test at 2:00 AM just to be sure you are not having high blood sugars during the night. Right around 110 all night is great. Part of getting my A1C corrected was to test durning the night for a month and finally after years of being a little forgetful that overnight we still have 8 or 9 hours to account for in overall blood sugar control (24 hr), I finally got it right and A1Cs are right for me being type 1. Just a suggestion. It really takes focus to get foods and exercise and meds correct. Once the Dr. sees what you have done I predict he/she will be amazed at the progress!

Keep us posted.

krhudson



krhudson
 
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soapster1949 replied to acraftykid's response:
Losing weight can make a big difference in your glucose levels. You may need an adjustment in your meds. Metformin generally does not cause lows so it may be the Glip. With the weight loss and physical activity, it's possible the doctor may eliminate the Glip. I wouldn't say drinking water would cause a DRASTIC drop. I know there are some folks who will drink a lot of water to bring their numbers down when they are high but I honestly don't think the water is causing your lows. To prevent the numbers diving in the middle of the day, you should plan to have a light snack. Hope your doctor's appointment gives you some answers.
 
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mhall6252 replied to soapster1949's response:
Excellent advice!


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