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drug induced high blood sugar readings
Anon_231870 posted:
I wonder how many people currently diagnosed as daibetic are really victims of bad medicines.Please understand that many commonly prescribed medications are beneficial to most people, but can cause severe, even dangerous reactions in certain people.
Penecillin is a good example. A person who cannot tolerate penecillin may have such severe reaction to it that they may die!
I check with several pharmacists who all confirmed that certain meds I take raise blood sugar levels in a very small number of persons.
I`d never been accused of having abnormal blood sugar levels, until after taking those meds for more than a year.
Unfortunately doctors would rather accuse me of having diabetes, than stopping those meds and prescribing different ones, then reevaluating bg after an appropriate time.
It seems like deliberate abuse to give a person prescriptions that may give false high bg levels, then condemn the individual as being "diabetic".Why are doctors exempt from taking rsponsiblity for problems caused by medicines they prescribe?
DavidHueben responded:

If I may ask, which medications do you suspect are raising your blood glucose levels? Maybe there are some here who might suggest alternatives that you could run past your doctor.

We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. - Winston S. Churchill
Anon_231870 replied to DavidHueben's response:
Thank you for your reply. After thinking things over, I`ve reluctantly come to the conclusion that NO ONE in the medical profession will help me get the label "diabetic" removed from my name.
Why should they? They gain nothing by helping me restore my good name! If they did so, it would be an admission that an elitist made an error! It will never happen.
Also, someone is making an awful lot of money by disseminating the idea that that type 2 diabetes is so widespread. If they were honest, the medical profession would admit that ONLY type I diabetes is true diabetes.
What they call type 2 diabetes really means that a doctor dosen`t like waht he or she sees when they look at you. The only way they can get you to do what they dictate that you should do is to use scare tactics. The word diabetes-aside from designating a nasty medical condition-sounds so wierd, arch and foreign that it frequently works scares the gullible into compliance.
I suppose having reached that conclusion, my only recourse is to sever all connections with my doctors. I used to think people only went to hell if a) they were really evil and b) they had to die first.
Apparently both a) and b) are false premises -doctors have the power to condemn those they do not like to Hell while they are still living.
Having said that I cn see I will no longer be allowed to access or to post at Webmd. Bye.
barb10562 replied to Anon_231870's response:
I dont understand why your doctor wont take you off the offending meds and try new ones and then retest you for diabetes? Either that or find another doctor and explain whats going on and voice your fears to him. Good luck!
cookiedog replied to Anon_231870's response:
No doctor will force any patient to take any medicine. I take some very toxic drugs due to my liver condition. In every case, the potential complications including elevated BS are explained to me.

The solution to your problem is fairly simple. Make an appointment with another specialist in the area where you are being prescribed the drugs you do not want to take. Go to the new doctor and ask if there is a treatment plan which does not include these drugs.

I am not sure why you need to have your diagnosis of diabetes removed to "restore your good name" What does that mean?
mhall6252 replied to cookiedog's response:
In addition to the good advice you have received, there are several really good websites that show all the potential side effects of almost every drug out there. If you are truly worried about the SE's of a drug, look it up - is one good site that has all the prescribing information, even for physicians. So you can see everything possible, in depth.

No one makes you take a pill - in the end, it's a completely voluntary act unless you are unconscious in a hospital setting or you have assigned medical power of attorney to someone. Do your homework, discuss your meds with your doctor and/or pharmacist, and take responsibility for your health.

As for there not really being Type 2 Diabetes, ummm....not sure where you are coming from. So when I was diagnosed with an average glucose of 280 (11 years ago) and yet my pancreas was still pumping out insulin, what would YOU have called that situation? All my other labs were perfectly normal and I didn't take any medications at all, so there really was no pharmaceutical to take the blame.

scorpion07 replied to Anon_231870's response:
Doctors are often poor listeners, especially patients. There are better doctors, you sometimes have to turn over a few or many rocks to find one. Usually they have their own personal preferences or what THEY are comfortable with.

Diabetes is a gold mine for health care in general. More diabetics mean more $$ to all involved......BUT; diabetes is nothing to be ignored or denied either.

If your current doctor continues to ignore you concerns, ask friends and family about which doctors they have had good experiences with and TRUST with their lives.

Anon_231870 replied to scorpion07's response:
Thanks to everyone who responded. When I was growing up, diabetes was very rare and those unfortunate enough to have it were usually very,very sick, with one foot in the grave, so to speak.
Now they speak of a "diabetes epidemic" which is supposedly affecting young, healthy people. I`m aware that the number that allows doctors to say a person has dieabetes have been lowered a number of times over the years.
They are even saying people who have no family history and are not members of ethnic or other groups at high risk of having diabetes are getting it. I find that hard to swallow. Sounds more like politics than science to me.
I was labeled diabetic because I went to the E.R, because I was unable to breathe, in fact I couldn`t even say much more than yes, or no without gasping for breath. I learned it`s really hard to breath when your lungs are filled with fluid. It`s a real treat(not) to have fluid pumped out of your lungs! LOL.
They did so many different things to me I had a lot of trouble understanding and keeping track of them.One doctor, don`t recall who it was ,even hinted at lung cancer.No lung cancer,T.G.!
I was told my bllod sugar level was very high. When i left the hospital , they told me had diabetes.
That`s odd, I thought., i`d never been accused of having diabetes before. That`s when I checked on the meds i was given, and a pharmacist told me they do raise glucose levels in some people.Once the hospital said I had diabetes, I found there is no way, short of putting a loaded gun to the one who diagnonsed it and forcing him to have that removed from my records.
I read up about it. While no one came right out and said it in so many words, the was a strong implication that a man with no family history or ethnic predisposition to diabetes, could only have gotten it by being the biggest goldbrick imaginable. The cartoon character HOMER SIMPSON typefies the image of a man with type 2 dieabetes- fat, lazy, ignorant,stupid, a total disgrace!
How many dopey tv and radio ads do you see and hear taht tell you diabetes is 100% avoidable if only you`ll do this , that, whatever? While drinking a coffee, black, no sugar, I over heard a bunch of retirees discussing so and so. The conversation went something like this" dija hear about so &so, used to work in the pot room? Dey hadda saw his legs off! Dum guy, if he only woulda stayed outta McDonalds, he be walkin around today? I noticed the speaker was munching on some kind of pastry, apparently not his first one of the day!
I decided to fight back.I bought one of those nasty meter things with strips, etc. Altho I wasn`t taking anything for it, nor doing anything out of the ordinary, I was able to confront the doctor with 120 readings, all below 95. Instead of rethinking the diagnosis, he merely grunted - you got it under control.
I had a very hard time controlling the urge to pick him up by his ankles and stuff him headfirst into his wastebasket!
I live in what people in government call fly over country and we`ve lost more doctors to retirement, illness, death, than can replace them.Not much opportunity to pick and choose here. Also,it is not neccessariy true, under all circumstances, that a person has the right to refuse treatment. Lotsa loopholes there, my friends. Besides, a doctor has the legal right to drop a patient who is"non-compliant", at least in my state.
The easiest thing to do would be to go along with them, let them make a fool of me but it would be wrong and probably result in eternal damnation!
DavidHueben replied to Anon_231870's response:
I am not quite sure I understand your attitude toward Type II diabetes.

First, I don't think doctors accuse people of Type II and condemn them to hell. They run tests, interpret those tests, do exams, and then diagnose. Telling someone they have a medical condition is not accusing, at least in my experience.

Second, I don't understand (if I read your meaning correctly) that "The cartoon character HOMER SIMPSON typefies the image of a man with type 2 dieabetes- fat, lazy, ignorant,stupid, a total disgrace!" That simply is not true. For example, I have a good friend who is 52 years old, very athletic and in great shape (he regularly rides in 100 mile bike tours, and is in the gym five days a week. Guess what, he was diagnosed with Type II diabetes, is insulin dependent, and now wears a pump.

Third, most diabetics do not consider their glucose meter to be a "nasty" thing. It is a pretty good tool to help us achieve and maintain better control.

P.S. I also live in "flyover country" and I doubt you will be condemned to eternal damnation!!!

We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. - Winston S. Churchill
brunosbud responded:
You disagree with your physician's diagnosis. You want him to eliminate it from your record...

That's a fraudulent act. If he does that, he may be open to disciplinary action, at best, and loss of his license to practice, at worst.

He's not going to risk that consequence just so your mental state can be put at ease.

He's more likely to submit to an exorcism than purge his diagnosis from your medical records.

But, let's assume your rant against your physician has merit... Why complain about it on a chat board?

Build your case, gather evidence (of his malpractice) and get supporting opinion(s) from other diabetes specialists...Prove that this conspiracy you speak of is real...

Either way, you have options available to substantiate your claim and seek proper remedy. Pursue your grievances with vigor but do so through the right channels, please. Consulting a malpractice attorney would be advisable.

And, one last suggestion...

Keep the "condemn to hell" and the "Homer Simpson" part out of your complaint.

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