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    That BG spike
    GugaWakesa posted:
    I've been fighting with diabetes for 2-3 years. I recently had a major spike that caused paralysis in my right eye. I'm working hard at regulating, but still have one major issue.

    AFTER breakfast, which I have been varying to find out what works, I have a spike. It goes up into the 200-250 range. Upon getting up (no matter the hour) the reading is always under 140. The rest of my readings through the day are all well under 180, sometimes dipping under 100.

    I've read a lot of literature and of course, it's mostly contradictory. So, I'm looking for advice. My new diabetes specialist agrees that the diet info is confusing and that I have to figure out what works for my body. I live in the Czech Republic and don't have the language yet, so this complicates matters. There are health food stores here, though.

    So - words of wisdom?
    GugaWakesa responded:
    I forgot to mention that I'm 67.
    flutetooter replied to GugaWakesa's response:
    Welcome Guga! I am 73 and found that my body no longer needs the amount of food I used to eat when I was younger. It is surprising how many carbohydrates I can do without - grains like cereals, bread, rice, sweets of any kind, fruit juices. My blood sugar stays much lower when I keep the number of grams of carbohydrates at about 100 per day. This is much lower than what the diabetic association here or many doctors suggest. They seem to have people eat what they want and then take more meds. Also check with your doctor. It doesn't seem to me that your medications are adjusted to your sugar readings.
    If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!
    mhall6252 responded:
    I think you need to work with your medical team because we don't know what other medical problems you may have that might impact your glucose levels. Are you on any other meds? Some have side effects that either raise or lower glucose levels, so that is something to be considered.

    If your major issue is generally after beakfast, you might try eating a mostly protein breakfast and skip the carbs (no cereal, bread or other grains) to see if that makes a difference. You don't need a health food store, you just need to figure out what works best for you for breakfast. And it doesn't have to be just breakfast foods like eggs. You might consider other meats, veggies, berries, greek yogurt, soups, etc.

    Your diabetes specialist is correct - that you need to experiment to find what works best for your body. We're all different and some people can tolerate some foods that causes spikes for other people. Trial and error is the name of the game.

    Good luck to you!

    Diabetic since 5/2001
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    GugaWakesa responded:
    I experimented with 2 tbs of raw apple vinegar with breakfast thus morning. Second reading was more then 100 points lower than yesterday.
    auriga1 responded:
    Guga, diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. We have problems with blood sugar rising when we eat carbohydrates. There are ways to combat this.

    First, be at a healthy weight. Even a 10 pound gain can cause your blood sugars to rise.

    Second, watch how many carbs you eat at each meal. That is important.

    Have you been able to talk with a dietician, a person specializing in nutritional diets for various diseases? Your doctor and/or a dietician should have mentioned the amount of carbs you can eat per meal (what is best for your body.) Everyone differs when it comes to the amount of carbs.

    Third, be as active as you can. Being active helps your body utilize glucose better. It won't build in your system and cause high blood sugar numbers.

    You need to try and keep within the ranges as best as you can. First thing in the a.m., your BS should be 70-110, two hours after a meal should be under 140. Before bed, 70-110.

    Many diabetics will have a rise in glucose during the sleeping hours thanks to the liver releasing glucose. Many will see a higher number in the morning and then be in range throughout the day.

    You don't need a health food store to shop for healthy foods. Eat more complex carbohydrates, which you can find anywhere. Stay away from simple carbs like white flour breads, pasta, rice, potatoes. Limit the carbs at your meals. You can experiment and see what works for you.

    Do not be afraid to call your doctor if you are worried. Something is not right when you spike to the 200-250 range. You either ate too many carbs and/or the wrong kind. Flute is right regarding the number of grams of carbs per day. You may need to restrict them further. I even go less than 100 grams of carbs per day because my body does not tolerate carbs at all. I use two insulins to keep my blood sugar within the normal range. I cannot eat any carbs without my sugar spiking. But that is just me. Not everyone is like that.

    Eat more vegetables. Fruit is good if you don't get a huge spike. Eat protein with your fruit if it causes a huge spike and see if that helps. Add more fiber to your diet. That slows the absorption of glucose into your bloodstream. Keeps it more steady. Your protein should be as lean as you can find it. Adding more fat to a diet does not help diabetes.

    Wishing you luck in this endeavor. Let us know how you are doing.
    natseen responded:
    well said by auriga1 , follow his each and every word your BS automatically normalize.

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