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vitamin D
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Vitamin D deficiency, long interpreted as a cause of disease, is more likely the result of the disease process, and increasing intake of vitamin D often makes the disease worse. "Dysregulation of vitamin D has been observed in many chronic diseases, including many thought to be autoimmune," said J.C. Waterhouse, Ph.D., lead author of a book chapter on vitamin D and chronic disease.
"We have found that vitamin D supplementation, even at levels many consider desirable, interferes with recovery in these patients."
"We need to discard the notion that vitamin D affects a disease state in a simple way," Marshall said. "Vitamin D affects the expression of over 1,000 genes, so we should not expect a simplistic cause and effect between vitamin D supplementation and disease. The comprehensive studies are just not showing that supplementary vitamin D makes people healthier."
"We have found that vitamin D supplementation, even at levels many consider desirable, interferes with recovery in these patients."
"We need to discard the notion that vitamin D affects a disease state in a simple way," Marshall said. "Vitamin D affects the expression of over 1,000 genes, so we should not expect a simplistic cause and effect between vitamin D supplementation and disease. The comprehensive studies are just not showing that supplementary vitamin D makes people healthier."
Report This| Share this:vitamin DVitamin D deficiency, long interpreted as a cause of disease, is more likely the result of the disease process, and increasing intake of vitamin D often makes the disease worse. "Dysregulation of vitamin D has been observed in many chronic diseases, including many thought to be autoimmune," said J.C. Waterhouse, Ph.D., lead author of a book chapter on vitamin D and chronic disease.<br /><br />"We have found that vitamin D supplementation, even at levels many consider desirable, interferes with recovery in these patients."<br /><br />"We need to discard the notion that vitamin D affects a disease state in a simple way," Marshall said. "Vitamin D affects the expression of over 1,000 genes, so we should not expect a simplistic cause and effect between vitamin D supplementation and disease. The comprehensive studies are just not showing that supplementary vitamin D makes people healthier."
EngineerGuy replied to jc3737's response:
Hi jc,
As these researchers talk of chronic disease, I am certain that a strong immune system would help the patient. That's not too controvertial. I am also certain that a Fuhrman style diet will strengthen the immune system, and likely improve or cure these patients much better than whatever drugs these researchers are using.
Just my opinion.
Best regards, EngineerGuy
As these researchers talk of chronic disease, I am certain that a strong immune system would help the patient. That's not too controvertial. I am also certain that a Fuhrman style diet will strengthen the immune system, and likely improve or cure these patients much better than whatever drugs these researchers are using.
Just my opinion.
Best regards, EngineerGuy
Report This| Share this:vitamin DHi jc,<br /> <br />As these researchers talk of chronic disease, I am certain that a strong immune system would help the patient. That's not too controvertial. I am also certain that a Fuhrman style diet will strengthen the immune system, and likely improve or cure these patients much better than whatever drugs these researchers are using.<br /> <br />Just my opinion.<br /> <br />Best regards, EngineerGuy
jc3737 replied to EngineerGuy's response:
I agree with you that the Fuhrman diet will improve the immune system but the question of vitamin D supplementation is becomming more and more controversial with each passing day.
I have no idea who will turn out to be correct.All I am saying is that we need to look into it.
I have no idea who will turn out to be correct.All I am saying is that we need to look into it.
Report This| Share this:vitamin DI agree with you that the Fuhrman diet will improve the immune system but the question of vitamin D supplementation is becomming more and more controversial with each passing day.<br /> <br />I have no idea who will turn out to be correct.All I am saying is that we need to look into it.
"Such claims are not supported by the available evidence," the committee wrote. They were based on studies that observed populations and concluded that people with lower levels of the vitamin had more of various diseases. Such studies have been misleading and most scientists agree that they cannot determine cause and effect.It is not clear how or why the claims for high vitamin D levels started, medical experts say. First there were two studies, which turned out to be incorrect, that said people needed 30 nanograms of vitamin D per milliliter of blood, the upper end of what the committee says is a normal range. They were followed by articles and claims and books saying much higher levels — 40 to 50 nanograms or even higher — were needed.
After reviewing the data, the committee concluded that the evidence for the benefits of high levels of vitamin D was "inconsistent and/or conflicting and did not demonstrate causality."
After reviewing the data, the committee concluded that the evidence for the benefits of high levels of vitamin D was "inconsistent and/or conflicting and did not demonstrate causality."
Report This| Share this:vitamin D"Such claims are not supported by the available evidence," the committee wrote. They were based on studies that observed populations and concluded that people with lower levels of the vitamin had more of various diseases. Such studies have been misleading and most scientists agree that they cannot determine cause and effect.It is not clear how or why the claims for high vitamin D levels started, medical experts say. First there were two studies, which turned out to be incorrect, that said people needed 30 nanograms of vitamin D per milliliter of blood, the upper end of what the committee says is a normal range. They were followed by articles and claims and books saying much higher levels — 40 to 50 nanograms or even higher — were needed. <br />After reviewing the data, the committee concluded that the evidence for the benefits of high levels of vitamin D was "inconsistent and/or conflicting and did not demonstrate causality."
One thing I need to make clear.Until the data is clear I plan to continue my daily multi vit which has 1000Mg of vit D.(Its Fuhrman's gentle care).
I am simply raising the possibility that vit D supplementation may be a problem.The overall bulk of the data supports vitamin D supplementation at this point in time.
I am simply raising the possibility that vit D supplementation may be a problem.The overall bulk of the data supports vitamin D supplementation at this point in time.
Report This| Share this:vitamin DOne thing I need to make clear.Until the data is clear I plan to continue my daily multi vit which has 1000Mg of vit D.(Its Fuhrman's gentle care).<br /> <br />I am simply raising the possibility that vit D supplementation may be a problem.The overall bulk of the data supports vitamin D supplementation at this point in time.
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