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    jc3737 posted:
    Is sugar really all that important in causing cardio disease?
    dteresa responded:
    I don't drink soft drinks at all and am not surprised that sugar is not a health food, but wonder what those Japanese women were eating along with the soft drinks. Are soft drinks a part of the traditional Japanese diet? I seem to remember unsugared tea is the traditional drink. Could this denote correlation rather than causation?

    jc3737 replied to dteresa's response:
    I had expected to see a strong positive correlation between sugar and heart disease(and all types of disease)..I'm not sure I trust the study.
    heretk replied to jc3737's response:
    Interesting, it would be nice to be able to see the full paper. I have seen previous studies showing IHD not correlating to glycemic index (i.e. sugar versus less refined carbohydrates) but correlating with the total glycemic load.

    For example, Burkitt studies from British African colonies (1940-ties), sugar cane plantation workers, did indicate a strong correlation between high sugar consumption and diabetes plus other related diseases, with an 18 year time lag. However, the results may be interpreted also in the light of total glycemic load rather that sugar per se.

    Similar data exist for cancer, there seems to be a better correlation between cancer and total carbohydrate intake (see for example Mexican women study by Obreu et al) rather than cancer and some particular type of carbohydrate.

    In this line of interpretation, the less total carbs intake the better. It is interesting to notice that vegetarian diets tend to be lower in total calories (they are less obese after all, aren't they?), therefore lower in carbohydrate calories than SAD.

    jc3737 replied to heretk's response:
    The basis of most vegetarian diets is usually rice or potatoes which they eat by the ton.And many western vegetarians also eat lots of fruit.

    That does not seem very low carb but less processed carbs than the SAD.

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