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    Barry Groves
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    jc3737 posted:
    http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/low-carb-high-fat-diet-guru-barry-groves-77-passes-away/18318

    I know this is not scientific but since it came to mind I have to bring it up.Compare to Drs Campbell and Esse...both still healthy 80+ yr olds.
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    anon615 responded:
    Well, JC, only a couple of years difference and the game isn't quite over yet. Mr. Groves died from cancer but I can't find which kind. For all we know he could have been exposed to asbestos.

    If he had no heart and artery problems, no high blood pressure or blood sugar and he was not overweight then he must have been healthy for all those years.

    Some of us have family members or friends who eat horrendously. I am not just talking about either paleo or vegan, but actual processed junk, and live forever. Others are very careful and succumb at a fairly young age.

    We should have come with a manual.

    dolores
     
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    jc3737 replied to anon615's response:
    I suspect Dr Campbell would say the higher protein diet made him fertile ground for cancer.

    "Some of us have family members or friends who eat horrendously. I am not just talking about either paleo or vegan, but actual processed junk, and live forever. Others are very careful and succumb at a fairly young age."

    Maybe when your times up its up and diet does not really matter.A bike wreck and a broken hip can lead to an early death even if the diet is perfect which reinforces the idea that its not the material aspects of life that are most important
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    anon615 replied to jc3737's response:
    Which re4minds me of Johnny Carson giving tips on how to stay healthy Like--don't run through the streets of Newark shouting, "I've got the goods on Big Louie."

    dolores
     
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    Alipib responded:
    When I cherry-pick people, I like to compare Nathan Pritikin who got cancer and committed suicide at a younger age to Wolfgang Lutz (author of Life Without Bread) who lived to be 97.
     
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    jc3737 replied to Alipib's response:
    Alipib,You made your point.

    I have the book you mention by Lutz...but trying to keep my carbs as low as he suggests did not work for me.


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