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Scientific Evidence for HCG Weight Loss
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BethGolden posted:
The words "scientific evidence" are being thrown around a lot recently in regard to "DIETS" and while those words appear to be "Medically Sound", what does "scientific evidence" really mean?

I read all sorts of rebuttals mentioning there is no scientific evidence that HCG Diets work or there is no scientific evidence that Homeopathic HCG works, however these statements often leave one believing that other forms of weight loss, like diet and exercise, have 'scientific backing" and make HCG Diets invalid.

Traditional weight loss through diet and exercise has a 95% FAILURE RATE within the first year.

That means that out of 100 people who will start a "diet and join a gym" January 1, 2011, a whopping 95 of them will fail! People who try this method end up more frustrated than before with more body fat come Spring of this year. I think we need to look further at this type of antiquated weight loss program and put it in it's proper perspective. The 'scientific evidence" IT HAS is that DIET AND EXERCISE FAILS MISERABLY FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.

Having worked with and witnessed the successful results of weight loss with HCG with 1000's of clients since 2007, I have seen that it works for approximately 98% of people! Compared to the fact that "diet and exercise" only works for some 5% of people should be proof enough which program works best.

The key with any HCG Diet plan is to maintain the weight loss. If a clinically proven, sound program is followed that rebuilds the underlying deficiencies, the results can be extraordinary!

My concern is not so much about what is "scientifically proven or not scientifically proven" but more about affiliate marketing websites that do nothing other than sell "hcg drops" and "diet-hype". There are no clinicians or clinically history behind these websites nor any medical training, which is apparent from the redundancy of the cloned information that gets copied from website to website. There is a LOT more to HCG Dieting than a diet and a $69 bottle of hcg Drops!

MY TIP OF THE DAY: If you've failed to lose weight with diet and exercise, learn about the underlying effects the HCG Diet has on the function of the body and the positive effects it may have for you when done correctly. Dr Beth Golden. HCG Diet Plan
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jc3737 responded:
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walkingonedge responded:
Thanks Beth for expressing your experience with the bHCG diet. I would Iike to add a comment about "scientific evidence".

First, I do value clinic experience and the success that clinicians feel like they see over through their careers. Yet there is something to be said for scientific evidence backing up claims. You say that traditional weight loss programs (diet change exercise) work only about 95% of the time after one year. While this may be true, what about numbers for the bHCG diet?? Can you cite objective, peer-reviewed (published in a reputable journal) percentages for the bHCG diet after one year? I know you clinical experience tells you it works (seeing 1000s of patients), but can you point us to studies (not done by HCG manufacturers or providers)? One possible explanantion for your experience: the 1000s of patients that you see positively affected may be just the ones who come back to you because it worked for them. It is possible that all the people for whom the bHCG diet didn't work or had serious problems/side effects, they didn't come back to you. In that case, you'd never know how well it worked overall. In a formal scientific study, this is something you have to think about through "intention to treat analysis" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_to_treat_analysis). Clinical experience doesn't make doing this kind of analysis possible.

Second, I would make a point on why traditional exercise and diet don't work much of the time. Maintaining a healthy diet and exercising regularly is not easy and takes a lot of focus/motivation over years. The reason diet/exercise fail "95%" of the time is because people have trouble maintaining healthy diet and activity. Most inevitably "fall off the train" and eat unhealthily and aren't physically active enough. If you were able to maintain a healthy diet and enough exercise, you would lose weight. There is no question about that. Studies at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), where people are essentially locked into a room (voluntarily) and only given certain amounts of food and compelled to exercise an exact amount everyday, show that diet change and exercise DO WORK. Of course I am not suggesting people locking themselves in a room; I am just showing that on a basic level, diet/activity do work. Further, other experiments show that after a very low calorie diet (like the bHCG diet without the bHCG), traditional diet/exercise can help people keep weight off long term (example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12792622/). The question is whether you can maintain traditional diet/exercise.

In real life, the reasons that diet/exercise don't work are not simple. It isn't necessarily an individiual's fault alone. We live in a world that makes eating unhealthily and not exercising easy. There is fast food all around us, processed foods with lots of fat everywhere, and portion sizes (the size of our plates) are getting bigger and bigger. Meanwhile, we have built cities that depend on cars, make biking/walking difficult, and have increasingly starting working jobs that don't include physical activity. We also are trying to cram more and more into our everyday lives, making less time available to eat well and be physically active. This also makes life more stressful (which can increase eating). All this means that it is not that physical activity and a healthy diet don't work, it is that getting there is very hard. I believe that the answer is not things like the bHCG diet (or any other diet), but fundamentally changing the way we live. We need to change our cities/towns and be advocates for creating a society that pushes healthy lifestyles. That would mean Beth's "95%" failure rate would go drastically down. We need real and meaningful change in our lives, not simple and quick diet/drug fixes to our weight problems.
 
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walkingonedge replied to walkingonedge's response:
Also, I would add that there have been many studies showing the ineffectiveness of the HCG diet. This one, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/595585, from the 1970s, showed that HCG injection did no more for weight loss, measurements of circumference of parts of the body, or hunger control than injection of water (a placebo). A newer study from 1995, that combined a bunch of prior controlled trials, showed that HCG is not more effective than placebo in helping with weight loss. The message here is that eating a 500 calorie diet will make anyone lose weight. HCG scientifically hasn't been shown to help this process at all.
 
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renoviva replied to walkingonedge's response:
Hcg Diet is absolutely.working.Anyone can come and lose weight at my clinic at Turkey.If the people can not lose I will pay all the cost including airways transport.More than 1000 thousand people have slimmed with us.t.All this tirals were made with small n numbers.The one you said is with 20 people.Another one is just 6 person.Method is lacking.Skin folds wer not measured.With plasebo circumference is similiar,but with Hcg skinfold decrease and this the proof of fat loss.At plasebo skinfold increase that is the proof of muscle loss.We have dexa scan now and it can be showed easily.
But obesity makes much money for health,weightloss and food commerce.
Watch the movie Supersize me...
renoviva.com.tr
 
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max9821 replied to renoviva's response:
If the HcG diet works, why would anyone have to travel to Turkey? There are plenty of places you can go here in this country to get your shot. My daughter did just that. Gained all the weight back.

Anyone can lose weight on a diet consisting of around 500 calories. It could be a diet of Twinkies as long as it was only 500 calories.

If there is a diet plan after the Hcg then why not use that diet to begin with? If it is a healthful, less calorie dense, high nutrient diet people will lose weight without hcg. I did.

I think a better guarantee, and one that would induce lots of people to come to Turkey for your treatment, would be to pay for them to take a plane, rent a hotel room and take the treatment. If it works and they keep the weight off for a year or more then they would guarantee to pay you for everything. If it works. After all, if people can trust your guarantee you certainly can trust theirs.

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