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    Nicotine and Weightloss
    Ellen1991 posted:
    I know smokers have smaller appetites.. and nicotine increases the metabolism. I would NEVER start smoking to lose weight.. the health detriments are NOT worth it.. but maybe taking small doses of nicotine after meals in the form of lozenges or patches may have some weight loss benefits? I wonder..

    But then again I've heard smokers gain weight once they stop smoking (maybe because of a combo of an oral fixation/needing to replace their former addiction with a distraction..? Not because their metabolism slows back down alone...?) If they consciously ate exactly the same amount of calories, or less than they did while they sitll smoked they probably would not gain.. I wonder if I should try using the lozenges at less than the recommended amount to quit smoking..? Or could this be harmful? I haven't found any helpful studies to see if this is something worthwhile to look into.. Does anyone have any idea?

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    All_is_One responded:
    Nicotine is a highly addictive substance. I have read that its on par with the addiction levels of cocaine, maybe even crack!

    I recommend trying other methods. Drink plenty of fluids (preferably fruit/veggie juices and water). I also recommend eating more beans and things like sweet potato. Foods like these that are high in fiber and complex carbs will satisfy your hunger and keep you feeling full much longer. Also, people who consume more complex carbs/high fiber foods can actually eat a few hundred more calories in the day and still maintain weight then people who don't eat beans and the like.

    As always, try to include more veggies and fruits. Things like broccoli and cauliflower are very nutritionally dense.

    Good luck, and may the peace and unity of our Infinite Creator be with you always!
    KennyCrox responded:

    Nicotine does increase one's metabolism. It works in conjunctdion with diet to drop weight.

    That is why some bodybuilders use the nicotine patch when dieting down for contest.

    "Nicotine: Chemically Correct" provides a more indepth analysis of how nicotine works for weight loss.

    As the article notes in the Conclusion: "Given Nicotine's pharmacology, it appears to be most useful during periods of intense dieting. By enhancing the actions of dopamine, serotonin and leptin, as well as partially inhibiting the actions of neuropeptide Y, nicotine can partially deceive the body into thinking it is fed-thereby decreasing appetite, mobilizing fat, and preserving lean body mass-even in the presence of a calorie deficit."

    One of the best fat loss/weight formulas every is the
    combination of Ephedrine/Caffeine/Asprin.

    Larry Hobbs does medical research for Bariatric Physicians, specialist in obesity.

    Years ago, Hobbs proclaimed it to the be the best
    combination he's seen for weight loss.

    While new weight loss medications have come along, the Ephedrine/Caffeine/Asprin combination still rates as one of the best.

    With that said., no supplemeny alone will work without a proper diet.

    Kenny Croxdale, BA, CSCS
    KennyCrox replied to All_is_One's response:

    Increasing water intake definitely increases weight loss. " ...water actually increases your body's ability to metabolize fat. Here's how:" [br>

    Drinking more "fruit/veggie" juices is counter productive. It adds more concentracted calorie to your daily intake.

    What you want is calorie dense food, such as the complex carbohydrates you suggested.

    Another problem with juices is the concentration of fructose. Concentrations of calories from fructose appears to increase body fat.

    "Excess fructose consumption has been hypothesized to be a cause of insulin resistance , obesity ,[37> elevated LDL cholesterol and triglycerides , leading to metabolic syndrome .[38> Fructose consumption has been shown to be correlated with obesity,[39> [40> especially central obesity which is thought to be the most dangerous kind of obesity." Metabolic syndrome

    Consuming a piece of fruit does not create that same effect. Fruit is packaged in a "fiberous wrapper" and is a calorie dense food.

    Kenny Croxdale, BA, CSCS

    Ellen1991 replied to KennyCrox's response:
    Thanks! That's very informative!!
    Andie_WebMD_Staff replied to KennyCrox's response:
    Keep in mind that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has banned the sale of ephedra because of concerns about safety.

    Ephedrine alkaloids, the active ingredient in ephedra supplements, had been linked to some 16,000 adverse events prior to the ban, including heart attacks, strokes, and numerous deaths.

    I used to take an ECA stack and it did help me shed pounds. BUT, I also experienced heart palpitations, occasional circulation loss in my hands, and chronic migraines. It was a high cost to pay, but not nearly as high as some have paid.

    Please talk to your doctor before you take any over-the-counter diet aid or begin taking any herbal remedies for weight loss .
    Fear less, hope more; Eat less, chew more; Whine less, breathe more; Talk less, say more; Love more, and all good things will be yours. - Irish Proverb
    KennyCrox replied to Ellen1991's response:

    You're welcome. When used properly by healthy individuals in conjunction with a proper diet, Ephedrine/Caffeine/Asprin has been shown to be an effective weight loss tool.

    Kenny Croxdale
    Pamela Peeke, MD, MPH, FACP responded:
    Hi and thanks for your posting. Whoa, hold on now. Let's do a little tutorial about nicotine. First, abandon any idea that popping nicotine lozenges or slapping patching on your body are going to aid in weight loss.

    Nicotine is a stimulant. Anytime you see that "ine" at the end of the substance (amphetamine, caffeine etc), you're dealing with a stimulant. The stimulation effect is short lived. It does act as a mild appetite suppressant, and may increase the average metabolic rate up to 15% higher than normal. Whoopee. Let's do the math. If your baseline metabolic rate is 1400 cals, smoking a pack a day (horrors!) increases may increase it by a whopping (hold your breath) 210 cals. One energy bar or a couple of cookies and you're done. The actual weight reduction doesn't come from any metabolic effect. It's from the slight appetite suppression.

    As with all stimulants, resistance to the drug occurs fairly rapidly. Eventually you need more and more,,,and you get the point.

    Your idea is not viable and terribly unhealthy. Stay away from drugs and instead it's all about "better living through your own chemistry!". Don't turn yourself into a science fair project. Instead, (broken record time), increase your metabolism in the most optimal and sustainable way--- build your calorie burning muscles and let them guide you to a fit body with minimal body fat and maximal fitness.

    Good luck

    Dr Peeke
    KennyCrox replied to Pamela Peeke, MD, MPH, FACP's response:
    The Muscle Burning Metabolism Myth

    Research demonstrates gaining muscle helps burn body fat but not the the extent people have been lead to believe.

    Research by Robert Wolfe, Phd., Chief of Metabolism and Professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch noted in the American Journal of Clinical Nutition:

    "...every 10-kilogram difference in lean mass translates to a difference in energy expenditure of 100 calories per day, assuming a constant rate of protein turnover."

    A kilogram of muscle being 2.2046 lbs.

    That means a pound of muscle burn a little less than 5 calories per pound. Not enough to build a "fat burning machine".

    What io interesting is that fat is metabolic, as well Fat burn approximatelyt 2 calories per pound.

    Doing The Math

    Losing a pound of fat and replacing it with a pound of muscle would provide you with a net caloric burn of 3 calories per pound. (5 calories per pound of muscle - 2 calories per pound of fat = 3 calories of net burn)

    Thus, increasing muscle and decreasing body fat will definitely increase your metabolism but not to the extent people have been lead to believe.

    As we all know diet is the "Star" of the :"Weight Loss Show" with exercise playing a supportative role.

    Kenny Croxdale
    jis4judy replied to KennyCrox's response:
    Kenny I think your math is wrong isnlt 2 pounds of muscle burning 100 cals means that per poud it is just under 50 cals not 5
    big difference

    Hugs Judy:)
    Sw 247 Cw 153ish remember the gold isn;t in the prize it is in the journey! life may not be the party we expected but while we are here we may as well dance!
    laura2gemini2 replied to jis4judy's response:
    Its 10kg of muscle burning 100 calories, roughly 10 cals per kg. That would equal a little less than 5 calories per lb.
    jis4judy replied to laura2gemini2's response:
    thanks for pointing that out I was wondering how that worked
    I am pretty terrable working with kilograms and it is a facinateing subject
    now since fat is also metabolic if a person loses a lot of fat and muscle their metobolic rate would go down considerabley ...
    Hugs Judy:)
    Sw 247 Cw 153ish remember the gold isn;t in the prize it is in the journey! life may not be the party we expected but while we are here we may as well dance!

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