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spiritsjourney posted:
I've been trying to find factual information and reviews of this supposed liquid alternative to gastric bypass (fills the stomach to 80% capacity with a jello-like substance you drink daily). The majority of information I've found is from Roca Labs itself (is it even a real lab?). What is their research? What studies have been done backing their claims? Is it even safe? Everything I've found reads like an Infomercial with no real information. YouTube has some video reviews of people using it but no one has lost any more than I did using healthy eating and exercise and I can't find any reviews of anyone who has been on it more than 7 weeks.

If it truly worked it could be beneficial in curbing hunger while on a calorie restricted diet...or maybe before going out to dinner at a buffet. It could also cause a bowel obstruction...who knows? I can't find good information on it.

Does anyone know where I can find the facts about it? I'm at a point in my weight loss journey where my metabolism has kicked up a notch and I'm hungry all the time. It could be a very helpful tool...or it could be $480 worth of Metamucil.
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NJvegetarian responded:
I've been doing research, and all I can say is PLEASE read the site's disclaimers. There are so many things that don't seem right, so PLEASE be cautious about purchasing. If you do purchase, and even if you have a severe reaction, you CANNOT post about it in any public forums or you can be sued. See my posts on this below:

1st Post:
Hi All — as I said in my original post, I really wish KcMc the best of luck. However, after reading Roca Lab's website (they are a nutriceutical firm, nor a pharmaceutical firm I believe), I am concerned about 2 things that I've reposed below. If I have a wrong understanding, please someone explain to me. I just don't want to see anyone hurt or scammed over this. My first concern is the "Waiver of Liability section."

"Waiver of Liability:
A person unable to meet these terms and conditions should not purchase this Diet. Since the Customer understands and is aware that he is required to drink large quantities of liquids in order to achieve maximum results (reduction of stomach capacity to 20%). No claim and/or complaint will be accepted regarding the lack of success of the Diet, in creating a lack of appetite. The announcement/writing/publication of any such or other claim in any media will constitute a breach of agreement, to which the Customer entered willingly and with full knowledge of the components of the Diet and its properties. As such, any claim as aforementioned will constitute slander and/or libel, and all remedies will be pursued accordingly."

Does this mean if you don't have a good result, you cannot publish it or you can be sued if you do?

My other area of concern is under the "Terms" section. It basically states, and I am wording this myself, so if I am totally off here, somebody please explain. Anyway, I believe it states that if you are mislead by a customer service rep, you have no recourse because it's just a "sales pitch." Here's the link:
https://www.rocalabs.com/terms.aspx

2nd Post:
Something seems fishy. Since my original post, their website has been updated and my bolded quotes are not there anymore in its original form, but still, if you search the FDA disclaimer, are still valid. PLEASE READ THE DISCLAIMERS BEFORE YOU PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT.
 
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spiritsjourney replied to NJvegetarian's response:
Thank you very much for the information. Something just didn't sit right with the lack of objective information available. For the price I'd expect a lot of information and statistics to back up the claims as well as research proving both its effectiveness and its safety. I've found nothing but infomercial jibber-jabber. These other things make it appear like they are trying to cover up a scam. I would be wary.
 
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Haylen_WebMD_Staff replied to spiritsjourney's response:
As our experts say across many community boards regarding cancer cures, magic weight loss, etc.:

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...

Haylen
 
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rtraxinger responded:
You wont find any negative reviews on this product as the company rigorously pursues any negative comments, remarks, post, etc. with legal action. http://www.justanswer.com/canada-law/4teos-send-email-this-moring-sunday-stating.html

As I haven't used the product, I cant say if its good or bad...but it is alarming how far the company goes to prevent any true, unbiased reviews. Lets face it, there will always be a few negatives on any product. You have to be suspect of any product that has only one sided reviews. With the research I've done, I'm curious as to how long it will be before this comment is taken down. After more than 20 years of internet use...yes I said 20, I don't think I have ever seen such a massive campaign undertaken to keep ALL information geared toward the positive.

If you still want to use this product....use it knowing once you order there will be no refunds and you will absolutely not be allowed to post your opinion if its anything other than a rave review.
 
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spiritsjourney replied to rtraxinger's response:
Thank you for your information. I will not use any product that legally punishes customers for voicing their true opinion of that product. The only reason I can think of that a business would do this would be to cover up the fact that their product is a total scam. Hopefully the word will get out enough that people will stop buying it.
 
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NJvegetarian replied to spiritsjourney's response:
SpiritJourney -- I have done a lot of research on this product and I couldn't agree with you more. At first, I thought this sounded like a good product if it truly worked. But when I went to Roca's website and read all the disclosures, the only thing I could think of was "TOTAL SCAM." I'm not saything that it doesn't work for some people. Perhaps it does. But the fact that they can LEGALLY blackmail customers tells me they have little confidence in their product. Unless it's not legal, in which case THEY should be reported. If a company is confident with their product, and they admit that not everyone will have a positive experience, then they shouldn't be afraid of a negative report because they would know they are far and few between. But they don't. They make it impossible for folks to post anything but positive experiences; hence you will NOT see anything negative published because they will go out of their way to sue you.
 
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spiritsjourney replied to NJvegetarian's response:
Agreed!
 
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Beckie001 responded:
I see it's being sold on eBay and through their own Facebook page by customers. All very positive reasons to sell. "Lost all my weight I have some left for sale" for example. These people who buy second hand have made no legal "promise". It's just a matter of time before the truth comes out.
 
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spiritsjourney replied to Beckie001's response:
Excellent!
 
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jamesk1958 replied to spiritsjourney's response:
I work in the news media. Their assertion that a negative review is slander is totally baseless. For someone to win a slander case, the statement must be false. If you are saying "I took this product and this was my experience" that is not slander. There is no way they could win a case like that.
 
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jalee1971 responded:
jalee1971 posted:I have read so many testimonials about this diet and have actually ordered the product to try, I want to read more.....if anyone on Web MD has tried this product, please, let me know how it worked for you.
Many blessings to you all,
Janet
 
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foxxmolder replied to rtraxinger's response:
I am fighting my cease and desist letter right now. Is it all right with you if I copy your post here about the comapny onto my site? Let me know.

Here is my site:
whatsupwithrocalabs.com
 
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foxxmolder replied to jalee1971's response:
hi there,
I am interested in finding out how you do with this product. I have had my site up since I bought "the formula" back in April. I have received my own cease and desist letter and I am seeking hlep to see if they can force me to take it down. If you feel like it, I would appreciate you visit my site and tell me how it has gone for you since receiving the formula.
(If it is still up!)

Here it is:
Whatsupwithrocalabs.com

Kathy Smith
 
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mere818 replied to jalee1971's response:
I am on day 2 of this and dont notice a ton of diference AND am having a hard time "getting the formula down"? What was your success?


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