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My daughter was telling me about a discussion you posted on FM and problems w/your vision
Is it located on this website?
I suffer from FM and was recently dx with cataracts (50 years's old). I had surgery back in April and so far my vision has not improved.
Since being dx w/fibro 5 years ago my eyesight is much worse.
Sincerly,
Imirsh
Dr. Pellegrino how does FM affect vision? Does poor vision keep deteriating (forever)? Can bad vision caused by FM be reversed at all?
Visual problems and visual symptoms are common with FM. The different FM "problems" can also explain specific visual problems:
FM myofascial pain = eye muscle pain. Eye pain is frequently the result of painful eye muscles. Yes those muscles get myofascial pain pain too and can cause headaches, pain when looking in different directions, pain when blinking hard or opening the eyes wide, "stiffness" with moving the eyes. This may also cause our eyelids to twitch, and contibutes to blurred vision and problems focusing.
FM allergies/sensitivities = eye allergies/sensitivities. Our eyes water, itch, and burn more, are bothered more by smoke, strong odors, and sunlight. This contributes to blurred vision and eye pain.
FM autoimmune dysfunction = eye autoimmune dysfunction. Dry eyes are common and they contributes to eye pain and blurred vision.
FM dysautonomia = eye dysautonomia. This likely plays a role in sensitivities, poor night vision, difficulty focusing, blurred vision and other eye symptoms.
FM brain fog = eye "fog." This leads to the visual overload we often experience esp. when shopping and scanning shelves and having problems visually deciphering exactly what we are seeing. This also explains when we read and re-read the same paragraph and still don't "understand" what we just read. This is our visual-brain disconnection that's part of the fibro-fog.
FM does not cause cataracts or loss of vision or retinal detachment. Other eye problems may be present so one should always work with an eye specialist for any persistent visual symptoms.
I'd write more about the eyes but I don't want to overload them (yours and mine!) Hope this helps put into focus the FM - eye connection. You see, I made a pun. <----(And I made another one!)
I'm so punny tonight.
Dr. P
Good post....and you are right....we do need to focus....on whatever the subject happens to be....
Thanks for sharing.....I am sure others will also understand the humor here that you have shared with us....
You just keep getting better and better.....LOL...
Take care...
MiMi
I have this:
FM allergies/sensitivities = eye allergies/sensitivities. Our eyes water, itch, and burn more, are bothered more by smoke, strong odors, and sunlight. This contributes to blurred vision and eye pain.
And this:
FM dysautonomia = eye dysautonomia. This likely plays a role in sensitivities, poor night vision, difficulty focusing, blurred vision and other eye symptoms.
Although I never had blurry vision until starting Savella. But I have Terrible night vision and have for Years and Years now. I never understood it as I can see good, read small print (until Savella). But blind as a bat at night. And the oncoming traffic lights on dark roads is the Worst!
And during the day, I cannot drive without shades on, the bright sunlight, I can't drive without them and if by chance I Have to, I get the worst headaches from it.
I also have this:
FM brain fog = eye "fog." This also explains when we read and re-read the same paragraph and still don't "understand" what we just read. This is our visual-brain disconnection that's part of the fibro-fog.
Although I have been raised believing I have a learning disability and that was my problem for not being able to understand or explain what I just read, lol.
You did it again, awesome info. and clearly stated!
OMG! Myofacial pain in the eyes. I never would have thought about that. I have had a lot of eye pain with eye movement for years. I always wondered what that was but never pursued it for answers.
I do have eyelids that twitch, headaches, and blurred vision. I can't tell you how good it feels to have an answer for this!!
Dr. Pellegrino, you put so much time and thought into your replies and that is very much appreciated! You also brighten our days because you are so "punny"!!
Thank you!
I get alot of pain in my face (cheeks and forehead) which I've always blamed on my sinus/allergies issues. Now I'm wondering if in fact some of it is FM related as well.
Just when I'm getting into this educational reply you hit me with your incredible sense of humor.
Thank God we can all laugh about our ailments as well.
This info has been amazingly helpful.
I too will print it off and take it to my next eye surgeon's appt.
He is very open to discussing whatever I present to him
I did fail the dry eye test and my vision problems have increased since being dx w/FM.
My concern is my vision not improving much at all since the surgery and could the FM be why.
I will speak my doc. about this and if I have more info. to pass along I will post it for sure.
Thanks again Dr. P.
Irish
I would love to hear Dr. P's comments on the subject of Savella and vision problems. I have all the other conditions as well (dry eye, night vision problems, blurry vision), but the rapid change in my vision is very disturbing. I am 51 years old.
And I do sometimes have problems focusing. Is there anyway to test for this? If so, would it be an optometrist or a regular Dr.?
Thanks!
Brittany
Before Savella my eyesight was perfect. I can't medically prove that as I have never been to an eye Dr before, lol, but I have never had any trouble seeing. Other than driving at night that is, I don't think I have ever been able to see good driving at night.
Since starting Savella I noticed my blurry vision the very next morning after starting it. I read novels off and on all day long every day, and know for a fact I read before bed without the blurry vision. Yet the next morning and every since it has been blurry.
I even do this now when reading on webpages like this... hold down my Ctrl button and scroll up with my mouse to make the text larger so I don't have to strain to read.
Your story scares me... I really feel so much better on Savella, my pain is nothing compared to before Savella. Yet, if I have to choose pain or loss of eyesight, I would choose the pain. :( And that's saying A Lot!
Now I did read that blurry vision is a side effect from Savella and read it at the webmd site. I also read that if u have a certain eye problem you should Not take Savella. I don't remember the name of the "eye problem" but you can bet I am on the hunt for it now.
I will post a few links for u to read when I find them, savella's side effects and such.
I am 41.... and so far I am still on 50mg twice a day.
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-152224-Savella.aspx?drugid=152224&drugname=Savella&source=1&pagenumber=6
Another one..
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-152224-Savella.aspx?drugid=152224&drugname=Savella&source=1&pagenumber=7
Now this is the one about the eye problem... If you are taking Savella and have never read this, then it is a "must read". If you have read it before, you'll find the eye problem listed on page 2.
http://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/guide/savella-for-fibromyalgia-treatment
I hope this helps! And Thanks for sharing your story with me also! I do know if my vision keeps getting worse then I will stop taking Savella.
Brittany, I don't know who would test for that. Hopefully someone who knows will come along with an answer :)
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