Heart Disease Community

This discussion doesn't seem to have died so I'll add to it as well.


I've been able to "pulse" since I was around 6 or so. It's the same thing that has been described here, the increased heart rate, dilated pupils, surging sensation throughout the body, etc. I too used to think I was the only one, I'm glad it wasn't nearly as rare as I had believed.
I can activate it and hold it for as long as want at varying degrees of intensity. However the stronger I bring it on the harder it will be to concentrate on anything but it, even breathing and moving becomes a chore. It gets uncomfortable if I continue for extended periods of time, having your heart beat that fast while you sit still is a bit alarming.
To do it I sort of concentrate on the space in my head above and a bit back from my soft palate. I feel/cause(?) a constriction here and between my ears followed by an intense rush of energy. It seems to flare up strongest in my lower back, forearms, hands, and hind legs, the latter being the slowest to develop- I actually feel it as a wave that travels 7 inches or so down my legs.

It's definable something to be curious about, especially with so many people exhibiting the same ability. I'm sure someone in the medical community can perform the same thing, it'd be cool for someone to look into it and try to make sense of it all.

I wonder how many of us have Attention Deficit Disorder and if that has anything to do with it. I know I have ADD. Anyone else?

I have ADD too! And I was thinking the exact same thing.

Chest Pain, Anyone? So I decided to meditate one day and realized I was able to increase my heart rate, dialate my pupils (not very dramatically) and give myself that little rush that feels suspiciously like adrenaline. The more I practice, the longer I am able to hold the rush and the stronger I am able to make it. However, I have noticed a distinct and unmistakable connection between this rush and chest pain, right around the heart, as a sort of throbbing, painful heartbeat. (It's another reason why I am inclined to believe it actually IS adrenaline, since aforementioned hormone is notoriously destructive to the body) It got so bad I had to be taken to a cardiologist several times, but each time the doctor was clueless. She diagnosed Precordial Catch Syndrome (which is basically unexplained chest pain in teenagers to young adults) but I wasn't really convinced. I didn't mention the adrenaline thing to her, should I've ought to? Has anyone else experienced the same? Please let me know! Thanks

I've wondered if I'm ADD or ADHD, but I've never been diagnosed with either (getting tested as an adult is $$$$$$).
If it's more common for those with ADD or ADHD, I don't think it only happens with them. If I remember right, about 4 out of 7 of my immediate family can surge, so I suspect there's at least a small genetic factor in all of this.

Hi there.

I don't have ADD or ADHD, but that does not mean there aren't underlying similar genetic factors that play into this thing, which are centering around that diagnosis in your case, but haven't resulted in a that in my case.

I have been able to "surge" or "rush" since early age as well as others here, I guess it's a question of when we accidently find out. It started as being able to self induce a "roller coaster sensation" (a tickling "suction" feeling in the stomach, like when accelerating in a vehicle), and by practice becoming better and better at keeping it going, resulting in increased heart rate (measured in my case to 220bpm, once at age 16). The sensation can be orgasmic in ways, but is first and foremost a feeling of extreme acceleration, as it has been described here many times now. Eyes dilating is certainly a possible side effect, but not always.

It resulted in a considerable increase in physical endurance (around 50-70%), lifting weights and doing pushups. It also left a feeling of restlessness in a positive way, an urge to quickly use the newly acquired energy. A feeling of being on top of the situation. I have yet to experience any negative effect of it.

Due to the extreme sensation of your heart pumping at 220, and a lack of explanation so far, I went to the doctor recently and he ordered X-rays, EKG, and blood analysis in order to expose any underlying heart condition, or damage due to what might be an abusive use of this ability. I am happy to say that all looked normal. Except for the fact that I lacked a little D-vitamin, which I am sure is not a side effect of this .

I have an Emotiv Epoc (an EEG-neuroheadset), that can monitor brain activity on 4 brain wave frequency areas (Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta) and have recorded sessions while doing nothing, and then "surging". Wow, the brain activity is crazy, in comparison! Extreme Alpha, Beta, and Theta. Delta is pretty active as well, which is a normally happening when in deep sleep consciousness, where Alpha and Beta are suppressed. I would have attached a playback video of that data, but it doesn't look like I can do that here, sorry.

I have noticed the effect of this "surge" is far greatest in areas of the body where the muscles are relaxed. This means that lying down is ideal. Its possible to do it sitting or standing, but almost impossible to feel at all, if you "tense up" you body (contract alle muscles you can). Do you agree in my observation?

I do find, however, that using it to stay awake is like pissing your pants to stay warm. Overloading your body when it desperately needs recreation does not in my opinion have a lasting effect, so I don't do that much anymore.

Exciting to join in on this international conversation, thanks for starting the thread. I am now following this, as most of you probably are.

hi from Seb

Wow, Sebasti1an! I would love to see the video of brain activity from your EEG while surging. Any way you could upload it to Youtube and then give us the link?

Hi ChasHathaway

Ok, I uploaded it to a fresh youtube account, you'll probably understand why .

Link to the video: http://youtu.be/Y8SKrrXXCmE

It is recorded with the neuro headset Emotiv Epoc. Bear in mind that it is a playback of the recording data, that is why I can change settings in the video, and why i am able to change angles on the 3D heads, in order to show both sides of the brain images. I did that because that is one of the interesting aspects of it. For newcomers, see my previous post for explanation of the video. I think comments and discussion should be kept in this thread rather than commenting on the video. I hope you will enjoy it.

Hi from Seb

Hello Everyone,

I just so happened to be googling this particular subject and hear I am. I always wondered what it was that I was doing to my body or heart for that matter. I remember telling my girlfriend at the time to lay her head on my chest, then I gave my body a lil jolt, as I like to describe it, and it freaked her out. She told me to stop and that it could lead to some bad health condition, but I have been doing it on and off all my life trying to find some constructive use of it. I see that some people have used it to lift weights or stay awake. I remember driving for long periods of time using it to keep me awake, but it was only a temporary boost and I would have to do it repeatedly over and over again. I like the term "surge" because that is exactly what it feels like. Its like you give yourself a mental "push" and the sensation starts from the head and flows down through the stomach to your feet. I have laid down flat on my bed and done this even to a point where I started to experience light perspiration.It is an invigorating feeling, and I am glad that I have found others who can do the exact same thing. Please feel free to forward me any additonal info that you gather on this topic. (aeroclef@gmail.com)

I can do it both lying down and standing or sitting up. I can feel it, of course, mainly running down my spinal cord.

Crazy. I've been wondering about this 'ability' for a long time. I've been able to do it as long as I can remember. Didn't know about the dilated pupil aspect until I tried it out tonight. Not huge, but the effect was immediate. I've never really monitored the actual BPM each time, I'm sure it was at least 120 when I held it for at least ten seconds.

There is one aspect, though, that I've not seen mentioned yet. All of the details of everyone else's experience I've had also (haven't figured out the lowered HR thing w/out changing breathing, but my resting rate is already around 55, would probably freak me out to go much lower). I can also, however, locate the intensity of the 'rush' sensation anywhere in my body that I wish and change it's location as quickly as I can think it. It can be a full body experience, or I can move the intensity to just my feet, or out to my hands, back to my chest, just my head, etc. That, to me, says it may be something more than just adrenaline. Seems energetic, possibly nerve related. Some might even say it's chi being moved around. I don't know.

If it is adrenaline related it gives me pause to do it quite so freely now. The stress hormones can do some damage over time. I've used this to keep me going on long road trips at night, also, but as many have said the energy boost only lasts for a few minutes at most.

Please share your thoughts on this energetic movement aspect and if any of you have had this experience. Glad I found you guys. Thought I was just a little nutty, turns out I'm not the only one.

Finally! I posted early in this thread and have been watching it ever since. I've been waiting for someone like you who has the resources to do some actual research. Ill tell you my experiences and observations in hopes that some connections will be made. I'm a 21 year old male with slight ADD problems (as a lot of people do). I've asked three different doctors if they knew anything about it and all were clueless. I've been experimenting with the surge feeling for about 8 years now and have found that the more you use it the more you can control it. I do it almost daily and have gotten to the point where I can isolate the feeling in any part of my body for extended periods of time with the strongest sensation coming from the spinal chord. This results in the usual symptoms (increase heart rate, dilated pupils). If I focus the feeling in my head my ears will pop and my scalp feels kind of warm and numb. If I stand and hold the surge after a while my limbs become weak and start to shake, especially my legs. Marijuana enhances the sensation. If I smoke then the feeling is stronger and feels much more ecstatic. I find it strange that there isn't any kind of medical name or description for this ability because there are so many people who can do it. My best guess would be either control of the adrenal gland or control of the nervous system. The amount of brain activity that occurs while holding the feeling is very interesting. Just speculation but If the nervous system is controlled by the brain then the high activity would make sense. I want to do more experimentation but lack the resources. Something like watching body temp or electrical activity (if possible) when surging. Or maybe record some data doing physical activities before and after initiating the surge. I'm sure there is a scientific explanation for this and would really like to get to the bottom of it. Also, I agree with your observation. The more I relax my muscles the stronger the sensation.
Hi from Colby

Hello all, I just created an account so that I could reply to this. I think we ought to list any possible similarities we may have. Since there doesn't seem to be any official study, perhaps we might perform our own. I will start.


Sex: Male
Age: 21
Hand Dominance: Left Handed

Blood Type: o-
Eye Color: Blue


Maybe we will get lucky and as some of you post your traits we will start to see a trend.

Hello all, I just created this account so that I could reply. Since it appears that no official study has been performed, perhaps we might perform one of our own. I am suggesting that we list some of our traits and see if any sort of trend begins to form. I will start.


Age: 21
Sex: Male
Hand Dominance: Left
Eye Color: Blue
Blood Type: o-

Sorry for the double post, had some connection problems.