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    Eye exam
    DoloresTeresa posted:
    I just got back from my semi annual visit to my ophthalmologist (who by the way must have had gastric by pass surgery because six months ago he must have weighed close to 400 pounds and now is very skinny--but looks 20 years older.) For a few years he has been checking my retinas, and examining for cataracts, ARMD, glaucoma and all the other stuff. Now he decides that I should have an HRT (controversial as far as efficacy according to the internet and some comments from Wills Eye Hospital.) and also a field of vision test which is subjective and relies on the patient pushing buttons and remaining very still for a long period of time.

    My IOP (pressure in the eye) is normal but I understand that people can have glaucoma and still have normal pressure--just when I was feeling good about my eyes. The real test of glaucoma is changes in the optic nerve which he has been looking at for years and which he never said looked bad.
    He still hasn't said he thinks it looks damaged in any way. I always ask. Now he said these two tests have to be done every year. I guess I am going to get fired by yet another doctor.
    Here is what I think. I think he just bought the HRT machine and now has to pay it off. I say this because my dentist never, in twenty years, said I needed panorama x rays until he purchased the machine. Now he recommends them. (I refuse) I figure if it was that important he would have sent me elsewhere for the panorama x rays before he bought the machine

    Glaucoma is caused by the same thing that causes heart attack, stroke, diabetes. Blocked arteries. (Oddly enough, very very low night time blood pressure can damage the optic nerve because it isn't getting enough blood.)

    So what do you think? Is this just another costly test that isn't necessary because optic nerve deterioration can be tracked by ordinary photos of the nerve?

    xring responded:
    Since I've never heard of an HRT Machine, I found some info.

    I'd be concerned about exposing my eyes to unnecessary laser beams (yeah, I know it says they aren't strong enough to do any harm). I don't know if there is any radiation involved.

    Interesting that after many years of being told about how harmless dental x-rays are, ("the same radiation exposure as spending a weekend in a cabin in the mountains") now, some dentists are now using a "Thyroid Collar" to protect the thyroid gland from radiation. Recently, on "Dr. Oz," several experts in that field discussed this issue & they disagreed with each other on the necessity.

    LIke Rx drugs, it doesn't give us a very confident feeling when they've been telling us how safe something is, then, after people have been taking a drug for many years, they'll warn us that it causes much worse problems than the drug is supposed to treat. ("Iatrogenic Medicine")
    Politicians should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison.
    DoloresTeresa replied to xring's response:
    My dentists have always used a lead apron with an attached collar that goes over the neck. My dentist never sent me for a panorama x ray but when he bought the machine, all of a sudden he thought I needed one.

    Bye the way, I was in the wrong line in the Phoenix Airport and was supposed to go through the x ray machine. I refused and was taken aside and patted down. I hope you don't see my face on wanted posters in the post office.

    Several years ago my doctor spent a lot of time urging me to take hormone replacement drugs. I refused and it wasn't until only a few months later that they came out with the bad news about those things. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. McDougall has some really interesting words to say about pharmaceuticals and tests.

    xring replied to DoloresTeresa's response:
    Hormone Replacement Therapy is a good example of iatrogenic treatment.

    Many doctors don't realize that the information they get about drugs is provided by the drug companies themselves who push drugs. The information is filtered, edited, & the data is tortured to maximize benefits & minimize risks - all for profit, of course.
    Politicians should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison.
    EngineerGuy replied to xring's response:
    Hi Dolores,

    Well, how much does the HRT test cost? I guess that's one factor. Your observations are priceless !!

    Hi Xring,

    The excellent book OverDo$ed America, is all about what you mention, the manipulation of data by the drug companies. 1 week after this book was published, Merck voluntarily removed Vioxx from the marked, based on data available 2 years earlier. The book has a chapter on Vioxx !!

    Best regards, EngineerGuy

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