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    DoloresTeresa posted:
    How much should we take? The RDA is only 6mcg.
    EngineerGuy responded:
    Hi Dolores,

    Just as an expert opinion, Fuhrman put 30 mcg in his Gentle Care formula. His vitamin disucssion is interesting, in the link.

    Vitamin B12 is always a subject of controversy. My father was a physician, and he advocated that many people, including my Mom, benefit from vitamin B12 injections. Roger Clements, teh baseball star, said in 60 Minutes that the only injections he gets from his physician, are Lidocane and B12. I personally have no position on the controversy. I have not read Dr. Fuhrman recommending B12 injections, on his website.

    The body appears to be very tolerant of overdoses of B12.

    Some raw foodists recommend no vitamin B12 supplements, in spite of being vegan. Dr. Fuhrman has treated some of these people for severe and debilitating B12 deficiency, after over a decade of being vegan.

    In the controversy over nuts, Dr. Fuhrman feels he has treated too many older people on low fat diets, with tremors, which he attributes to fat deficiency in these low fat diets. This does not make for entirely friendly disagreements with McDougall, etc.

    Best regards, EngineerGuy
    DoloresTeresa replied to EngineerGuy's response:
    EG, My grandfather and my mother had tremors and when they got older, you could see it in their handwriting. I am not seventy yet and just noticed a very slight tremor when I hold a piece of paper lightly in my right hand. My mom and grandfather were definitely not low fat eaters. I think it is possible that Fuhrman is seeing very low fat eaters with tremors but he is probably not seeing high fat eaters with tremors because they might not be coming to Fuhrman. I eat some salmon and a few nuts every now and them and am certainly not a raw food vegan. Pritikin said that most food has fat and that even iceberg lettuce is nine percent fat. Correct me if I am wrong but according to Ornish's calculations, on his no added fat diet he calculates that you are getting about eleven percent fat just from the plant foods. He does say that is too little and you would have to add some fat. How, he doesn't say.

    EngineerGuy replied to DoloresTeresa's response:
    Hi Dolores,

    Interesting observations, as always. Some more thoughts for your consideration:

    The other part of the puzzle is that fish oil has some benefit for treating the tremors in the elderly. That suggests that proper helathy fat intake is preventive for tremors. Note that people on the SAD are quite low in essential fats and healthy fats, but high in saturated fat, etc. Nuts, ground flaxseed, and fish oil are excellent sources of healthy fats.

    This involves some speculation on Fuhrman's part, but it is an excellent opinion for our consideration. One compromise position is to be sure to eat 1 oz assorted nuts or seeds daily. Walnuts and 1 tablespoon ground flaxseed are mentioned a great deal, to be included in the daily intake. My wife gets diahrrea from ground flaxseed.

    Best regards, EngineerGuy

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