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ufatbasted posted:
Hey All

I've read Lecithin is heart healthy. Just curious if any one has been using it or has any opinions on it.

Thanks!
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EngineerGuy responded:
Hi ufatbasted,

I just love your name !! :-)

Fuhrman calls lecithin a worthless supplement. Dr. Fuhrman uses a few supplements for some people, beyond the vitamin D, and Fish or algae oil.

Dr. Fuhrman's program definitely works very very well.

Oh, yes, there are many many supplements with supporters. Just look at the aisle of supplements in Walmart. :-) The primary way to health is our food.

Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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josvin84 responded:
HI,
This is not on my list of supplements. I had also read about lecithin being heart healthy but I have not been convinced.
Vitamin C, D and omega3 are my favourite supplements.

Josvin
 
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dtms1 replied to EngineerGuy's response:
EG, Until last night I thought the primary source of nourishment was our food but I saw a program about how agribusiness has taken over the food supply. Another on how monoculture farming has depleted the soil. We're all gonna die. Pesticides, depleted soil, chemically assaulted plants and animal foods. We don't stand a chance. Has anyone priced organic food lately?

Dolores
 
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jc3737 replied to dtms1's response:
Yes, and acid rain with all its pollutants(man made) make organic foods almost as dangerous.I guess you could water the crops with a filtered water source.
 
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ufatbasted replied to jc3737's response:
Thanks I purchased a bottle to use to make a "healthy"cooking spray. My wife uses Pam now and I'm trying to get her to stop.

On the subject of nourishment from food.
Read the "Omnivores Dilemma" by Michael Pollan. I'm about halfway into it and it is truly amazing how food is grown/prepared. So far this book has pushed me ever farther away from missing beef and pre-packaged foods.
Even so called "Organic" foods are not what I thought them to be.

EG Guy My name came from my old softball team that use to play in a tournament together once a year. We are called
Ya Fat Bastehd's. YFBs for short.
 
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EngineerGuy replied to dtms1's response:
Hi Dolores,

Re: Until last night I thought the primary source of nourishment was our food but I saw a program about how agribusiness has taken over the food supply. Another on how monoculture farming has depleted the soil. We're all gonna die. Pesticides, depleted soil, chemically assaulted plants and animal foods.


:-)


Happily, we can forget all that. Its nice sensational journalism, great for ratings. For those eating processed foods, it's all true. For us veggie huggers, it's not all false, but Fuhrman quoted some studies showing that most of the nutrients are still present in most of the foods. I forget just how it worked out, but it does. Don't forget, it's with these depleted foods, that studies show reduced cancer, heart disease, etc etc, with increased veggie intake. And the studies certainly were not people eating mostly organic foods. And, all of us are improving our health. Organic foods are great, but I've reversed my IMT eating very few organic foods. Just too expensive. I'm starting to eat organic carrots, because they are just a little bit more money, and my sister insists that carrots are used to scavenge contaminated soil, and carrots are especially important to eat organic.


Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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jc3737 replied to EngineerGuy's response:
Great point EG.Even those depleted foods show reduced cancer and other benefits.Lets hope those organic carrots are not watered by polluted rainwater...acid rain etc.

Another point...Has Fuhrman made any comparisons between the nutrient in cooked vegetables vs raw vegetables.

Some research I have seen says for some veges (tomatoes,cabbage,brocolli)for example show greater nutrient value when cooked.(may be right or may be wrong).

What does Fuhrman say?

I cover my bases by eating both every day.
 
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rubystar2 replied to dtms1's response:
Dtms 1, I live in some very prime farm country. The farms where I live are large but not agribusiness. By large I mean about 300 acres or so for most. I can't think of one farmer or any fields that I don't see crops rotated. I know some chemicals are used on the fields, mostly for weed control but if you'd ever care to come visit in the Spring and sniff our 'fresh country air' you'd know many if not most farmers around me use manure as fertilizer. ROFL
 
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EngineerGuy replied to jc3737's response:
Hi jc,

Re: I cover my bases by eating both [raw and cooked> every day.


That's precisely Fuhrman's approach. He advises to eat 1 pound raw and 1 pound cooked daily. Some nutrients are destroyed by cooking, and other nutrients are made more available by cooking. Also, it's easy to slurp down 2 cups of steamed veggies (with the water they were steamed with). It takes more work to pound down the raw veggies. They both have benefits. No need to choose one or the other. :-) Many people think they cannot eat this much. (For those who cannot, that's fine. Don't obsess over it.) A large tomato is almost a pound.


Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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EngineerGuy replied to rubystar2's response:
Hi Rubystar2,

Re: I live in some very prime farm country.


I'm jealous ! :-)


Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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rubystar2 replied to EngineerGuy's response:
Yes, I LOVE where I live. Slow paced life, down to earth people, kind neighbors that you actually KNOW. It's Spring now and I'm watching the farmers begin to work in their fields. I live in town but what I wouldn't give for 5 acres or so. *sigh*
 
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geoffreylevens replied to EngineerGuy's response:
"...it's easy to slurp down 2 cups of steamed veggies (with the water they were steamed with). It takes more work to pound down the raw veggies..."


Two easy ways for raw, both Dr F endorsed... Blended salad is one, just be careful w/ regular blender to do it in small batches so you don't burn it out or break something in the drive train (Unless you have a VitaMix or similar!) The other has a huge long thread on Dr F's site callled "micro-salad in food processor". Basically just toss everything in there and chop it down w/ "S" blade to small as you want it, maybe 1/4 green pea size. Much easier to eat that way. Sort o1/2 chewed while the blender salad is more like 80-90% chewed.
 
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rubystar2 replied to geoffreylevens's response:
Now I want a Vitamix. Why do I always want things I can't afford?
 
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EngineerGuy replied to rubystar2's response:
Hi Rubystar2,

I made a morning smoothie in my old Hamilton Beach for almost 2 years, before I broke down and got a Vitamix.

I got the variable speed version, but never use the variable speed. That could have saved $100. Still expensive...

Best regards, EngineerGuy


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