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ufatbasted posted:
I've been on a plant based diet for 4 months now. I eat lots of spinach
5-7 days a week it's in my salad and is the base for the 2 green smoothies I drink daily.

I was reading about the health benefit of dark green vegetables' and it seems the veggies and fruits I am eating are high in oxalates which I've read can cause Kidney stones.

Just curious if others here who are living on a mainly plant based diet can shed any light on oxalates.
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twinb63 responded:
From what I've seen ufb, the subject of dietary oxalates & stone formation is controversial, especially as regards nutrition recommendations. More important I think is to eat a variety of veggies, citrus fruits especially oranges, and drink plenty of water - at least half a gallon a day. Those factors seem to help in preventing kidney stones. I love spinach too & haven't had a stone. I don't worry about it and even if you've had one, which it sounds like you haven't, you shouldn't be concerned about it either IMO. If we feed our bodies healthy foods they'll remain healthy. Joe
 
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engineerguy responded:
Hi ufatbasted,

Always love your name. Even though you're skinny now.

Fuhrman says most of the green smoothies should be romaine lettuce. Spinach is very high in oxalates, as you said. Spinach is a healthy food, but I don't think you want a diet centered on spinach. I've changed my smoothies to be mostly romaine lettuce, and a bit of a wide variety of greens. In smoothies, we absorb more than possible in eating and chewing a food. Perhaps with spinach we can get too much of a good thing. I suppose there is a reason Fuhrman said most of a smoothie should be romaine, but he did not elaborate.

Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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hanawaiman6358 replied to engineerguy's response:
Hi Most of my green smoothies are kale and sometimes some green collards. I use lime juice and zest. I questioned the oxalates in spinach also and cut back. Sometimes I toss a head of romaine into the mix, but it is never the basis for my smoothies. BTW, I grow kale so cost isn't a factor. It is expensive here.
 
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rubystar2 replied to hanawaiman6358's response:
I don't eat much spinach, either. Instead of romain, though, I prefer red and green leaf lettuce. Would I be better off switching to romaine?
Honor Student: School of Hard Knocks
 
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geoffreylevens replied to engineerguy's response:
" Fuhrman said most of a smoothie should be romaine"


I missed that! Got a link? or a reference?


Thank you, I have been using massive amounts of kale and bokchoy and mustard greens in mine plus Romaine and various sprouts...
 
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engineerguy replied to geoffreylevens's response:
Hi folks,

Re: I said " Fuhrman said most of a smoothie should be romaine"

I was looking for a link, and can't find it.

So, I asked Dr. Fuhrman. Hopefully, we should have an answer in a couple days.

Best regards, EngineerGuy
 
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geoffreylevens replied to engineerguy's response:
I did some searching on his site and he seemed to say that both raw and cooked cruciferous were excellent to eat, some different benefits each way and the Romaine was only for taste modification.
 
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ufatbasted replied to geoffreylevens's response:
Well I've been consuming large amounts of spinach the past few weeks. I have a large salad for lunch everyday with spinach(among other veggies) instead of lettuce and two green smoothies a day that are 70% spinach, the rest is either kale or swiss chard, broccoli and some carrots and or grapes for taste.


I just joined an organic CSA and this will help me vary my veggie intake a bit more than I do now.
 
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engineerguy replied to geoffreylevens's response:
Hi GeoffreyLevens,

Re: ...both raw and cooked cruciferous were excellent to eat, some different benefits each way and the Romaine was only for taste modification.


Quite right. I probably stand corrected.


Best regards, EngineerGuy



 
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geoffreylevens replied to engineerguy's response:
Still waiting on Dr F's reply though sometimes, if he thinks answer too obvious I suspect he just ignores post...


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