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dtms1 posted:
Pomegranates are only available in the stores from October through January but the juice is available all year round. Fuhrman says to stay away from fruit juices, especially if you are diabetic. However, I read of at least one study which said that giving only one ounce of pomegranate juice a day to people for one year induced some reversal of occlusion in the carotid arteries of test subjects.

So should I stop drinking the one third to one half cup of pomegranate juice before my morning walk or should I continue it? (Because I drink it before my walk, my blood sugar after the walk is about the same as before the walk)

Dolores
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An_192707 responded:
Hi Dolores,

Pomegranate juice is so valuable, that it is an exception, and is a very healthful thing to drink. The study you are referring to: (1)

Dr. Ornish' equally dramatic study, showed improvement in heart blood flow for heart patients, while the control group, drinking a sports drink of similar color, taste, calories, but without pomegranate juice, got worse. (2)

Best regards, EngineerGuy

(1) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/15158307

(2) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/16169367
 
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dtms1 replied to An_192707's response:
Looked these up. I thought I read of a study using one ounce of pj, but the first study didn't have an amount and the second study used a whole cup. It appears that the benefit is for those who have more serious heart disease because in one study, there was no difference between the subjects and the controls. So--I guess it is better to err on the side of caution.

Dolores
 
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dtms1 replied to An_192707's response:
If you go to the first article, on the side there is an article about pj and diabetics. If you click on that you might be as confused as I am. One sentence says that lipid peroxides increased by 350 per cent. (This isn't good is it?) Further on it says that serum lipids decreased by 70 per cent. I would be happy if you could explain this to me.

Dolores
 
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dtms1 replied to An_192707's response:
eg, are you speculating or does fuhrman say to drink pomegranate juice. It isn't in his book. Also do you know if fuhrman's other two books (Eating Well--not sure of the titles) can be purchased separately?

Dolores
 
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engineerguy replied to dtms1's response:
Hi Dolores,

I thought the study (1) was for 1 ounce, but you are right, the amount was not shown in the abstract.

Yes, you can buy Fuhrman's books separately. His most recent book, Eat For Health, is a 2 volume set, though. Check his website, or your favorite bookseller. He plans to publish Eat To Live, 2nd edition, in September.

Am I speculating about juice? ^_^ I think he says 6 oz is OK, in Eat For Health. For some people on the website, he says no juice, for people who have to be as good as possible, for significant health issues.

I didn't see the diabetes study that you mentioned.

Just found another study in 2009, with people with more than 1 heart disease risk factor.(3) The pomegranate juice group had no difference for IMT results, compared to a control group (drank faux juice)


"In conclusion, these results suggest that in subjects at moderate coronary heart disease risk, pomegranate juice consumption had no significant effect on overall CIMT progression rate but may have slowed CIMT progression in subjects with increased oxidative stress and disturbances in the TG-rich lipoprotein/HDL axis."


Clearly, drinking pomegranate juice by itself, will not cure heart disease. But it can be a valuable addition to a plant based diet, and can make an important contribution to curing heart disease. It's a very healthful food. I make a point of including pomegranate most days.


Best regards, EngineerGuy


(3) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19766760
 
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DeadManWalking56 replied to engineerguy's response:
Pomegranate juice is supposed to stimulate production or effects of the paraoxonase enyzme family.

The PON molecules, as they get referred to, seem to turbocharge beneficial functionality of HDL, induce expulsion of ox-LDL from foam cells in artery walls slowly reducing blockages, and act as an anti-oxidant in the blood stream.

Unless your arteries are a serious or maybe I should say disastrous blocked mess, most people won't notice much of an effect. Improvements are slow, but are better than worsening blockages. I am, or was, such a person.

Plus I think PJ lowers blood pressure. I have about 6 oz PJ at breakfast and lunch, 6 oz water. Dinner, I mix about 3 oz PJ with 10 oz of water.

My wife thinks it must be good, as I am still way too "frisky" in the bedroom, especially for 57 and a serious heart disease patient.

DMW


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