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    GigiSage posted:
    Do women that are going to get an Epidural not learn pain management for the time before they get it? Early labor can last awhile and if you don't know how to manage the pain then you are just going to be miserable. Right now there is a girl on A Baby Story that just laid in bed during contractions... she didn't do ANYTHING else ... what would possess a woman to not think ahead to the time before the epidural?
    MtnPrincess responded:
    Unfortunately not every woman thinks enough ahead. They are not educated enough. They don't take birth classes or even know they SHOULD take birth classes. They just hear random stories from their friends, and assume that you can get the epi so quickly and that since "everybody's doing it" there aren't any side effects. *Sigh* This is why I'm working at becoming a child birth educator.
    GigiSage replied to MtnPrincess's response:
    Ugh... it just is so frustrating and of course me asking about the thought process of whether or not to learn pain management turned into 'Why wouldn't you want the pain meds, they are harmless' ACK! They are not harmless and in the hands of some OBs meds are incredibly risky! The average pitocin dose is up to 5x higher then the recommended dose!

    You can go read the thread on the 3rd tri board...
    MtnPrincess replied to GigiSage's response:
    Lol, on another board I'm on, yesterday I got SO frustrated! The board is about VBAC's and specifically not wanting c/s's. This lady comes on freaking out not wanting another c/s, but she doesn't want a midwife because "midwives don't have the technology like drs, like epidurals and ultrasounds and fetal monitoring". It took me a few minutes to calm down so I could give her a good reply instead of just yelling at her. *sigh* Reading the thread today it sounds like she's finally getting the picture that those "technologies" are what cause a lot of c/s's.

    It's so sad that women are just clueless today! There was another thread on there by women who are frustrated that when you want an all natural VBAC you are questioned at every appointment and told the "risks" over and over, and usually played the "dead baby" card, but if you want a RCS (repeat c/s) you are barely whispered the risks and treated nicely because you were the "good, complient" patient. *ARG!!*

    There's my vent for the day. :)
    GigiSage replied to MtnPrincess's response:
    There is one girl on this thread that believes the chemical process your body goes through is the same with or without pain meds... ummm... no? If you are not feeling pain then how can your body release endorphins? Ugh... there is a reason for the way our body does things naturally - I liken taking the ability from your body to do it the same as going through dialysis. You can't tell me someone on dialysis is the picture of health.
    GigiSage replied to GigiSage's response:

    Ok don't reply on there about anything but I really do not like this girl. The last comment on the bottom is about me. She has no clue and then on this thread she wants to say that doctors get miffed if you come in with an internet doctorate - ok a GOOD doctor will never be upset with you for doing research and in fact will point you towards MORE resources! I have never been chastized for asking questions in fact I have been praised for coming in with well thought out questions and getting all the information before making a decision.

    Good doctors HATE to educate you on EVERYTHING since they simply don't have the time. Bad doctors will want to tell you how to do it and what to do, and do not want you to have any questions or second guess anything.
    hipk427 replied to GigiSage's response:
    lol you did start something on there and never got your questioned answer. of course i have no experience so was not able to comment but i have done my share of research and an epidural is not for me unless i labor for more than 48 hours lol.
    GigiSage replied to hipk427's response:
    What can I say... I am just a trouble maker.... I should just follow whatever my doctor and nurses say and never question anything. The worse part is that I know they would never buy a car, a house or anything else without researching it but when it comes to medicine - just go with whatever they say...

    I have never said I know everything and my doctors actually appreciate that I take the time to learn about the treatments they want me to do and ask questions. But then again I have awesome doctors.

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