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We originally met online, talked and then met in public and discovered we liked each other and had things in common. She is a registered nurse in my state. I learned that she had tried suicide twice as a young girl - her mother was very strict with her and her sisters and she always felt unloved and unappreciated. Her dad was always working - law and politics. Her parents divorced in her teens and her dad remarried into a family of 7, she moved in with him. She has to be on medication for her depression due to the suicide attempts. Also, she recently went on anti-anxiety meds because she said she never felt so happy in her life and she felt like she was going to die. I went with her to the psychologist that day. She also suffered from bulimia at some point in her life and she suffers from SAD.
In her first year of marriage she went for counseling and was told to get out of the marriage ASAP - her husband was a narcissist and would never change. She left the marriage before do to his alcoholism but went back for the sake of her 2 daughters and she even attended Al Anon with him in hopes of fixing the marriage. When she put her foot down about his drinking he left and demanded the divorce. She discovered that he was at a recent New Years party and was drunk, she was upset and told one daughter about it; her daughter stuck up for the dad. Her close friends and some family members (her dad was one) that I met told me they do not like her ex for the way he's treated her through the years. I am probably leaving out things but that's the gist of it.
During this relationship we endured her moving out of her home of 30 years, her being without a permanent home for 6 weeks, the affects of hurricane Sandy, the death of her mother, her permanent relocation and purchases of a new car and new furniture and situational depression re all of the above. Between all of this we did make time for church, recreation and caring, loving and robust intimacy life. She was very happy I know, but I believe overwhelmed by all of the affection I gave to her.
I am concerned that she is going back to this man because of pressure from him and her 2 daughters and not love. I believe he is jealous of her happiness and is taking advantage of her being naive and insecure. She told me he was a very charming talker and very manipulative. I worry that she is making a very poor choice as she alluded that she knows she is chasing a dream and hoping for a miracle on this venture. I realize that it could be an ego thing on my part, but I truly am concerned for her and he mental well being.
Did/do I ever stand a chance with this woman? What else could I do/ have done? What could/should I expect? I told her that I am here if/when she ever needs me and that I love her. Is it love or pity on both of our parts? I was married for 30 years and I've been single for the last 6 and I have 2 children in their 30's. I've dated others and I am not desperate in that area of my life and I am not looking for completion (we had that discussion earlier in the relationship).
What now?
A few days before her ex first called she had sent me several texts about the "joy she felt", how her life was changed and how blessed she felt because of me being in her life. On that call I mentioned earlier where I was present I heard her tell her ex that she was "now in a loving, caring relationship with a wonderful guy", told him to "get a girlfriend" when he told her he was lonely but later asked him "why did you leave me." She recently told me of a coworker who got remarried after a 5 year divorce from an abusive alcoholic — she was told that this man had made a 180 degree change ergo the remarriage. She asked, "isn't that wonderful" and then asked me my opinion.
In our last texts she told me she knew why I was in her life and that I would always hold a special place in her heart. It feels like a switch was thrown inside of her because of the sudden and abrupt change in her feelings toward me and her ex.
I am really looking for answers to benefit my mental health as all of this seems so surreal.
Thanks!
She told me that I set the bar really high and she will accept nothing less from her ex. She said that I will always have a special place in her heart and that it was solely her decision to end our relationship as abruptly as she did. I voiced my concerns about her going back to the man and reminded her of all the bad things she said he had done to her but both her mind and her gut were made up. She said she doesn't want me to pick up the pieces should it not work out this time as she has her support group and to get on with my life. None the less, I told her where she can find me should she ever have a change of heart.
I have found that for every door that closes a window opens and I will not be holding my breath waiting for this lady.
End of story!
Thanks for listening.
'Your focus determines your reality.' --QGJ
She truly is a very caring, compassionate and lovely person; while I know it is over between us and that I will survive to love another day, I am very deeply concerned for her none the less.
Mike
She truly is a very caring, compassionate and lovely person; while I know it is over between us and that I will survive to love another day, I am still very deeply concerned for her none the less.
Mike
Mike
I think this is a case where she underestimated how much time it takes to heal from a split. There's nothing more that you could have done, you sound like you were very supportive and caring for her but all the while she was with you, she wasn't fully healed from her past relationship.
Judging by what you you wrote in your post, do you typically attract yourself to people that have a lot of drama/baggage? I'm wondering if that is a common pattern?
If you can, try to take this experience as a learning experience of what you want and do not want in a future relationship. Try not to let this get you down but keep yourself busy doing activities you enjoy and be open to any new opportunities.
I've dated 3 women in the last year and a half. The first was a widow of 30 years who I met through a mutual friend. Bottom line, she was lonely and I was her rebound from an earlier failed relationship. She also needed a companion until she went back to work. Oh, and she was still in love with her late husband - she told me that she could never love me like she loved him. We parted ways when she went back to work.
The next one I found on a popular online dating site. We lived nearby and found that we had some friends in common. A red flag went up as soon as she told me it was a good thing I kissed her on our second date because if I hadn't there wouldn't have been a third. She also wanted as much sex as possible because she had to make up for lost time — married for 30 years to an abusive man. She had dated one other guy before me for about two years and that didn't work out. This was a mutual breakup due to our incompatibility.
This last one was from that same dating site. During our early dates she only mentioned her ex a few times. As time went on she opened up about her life in general and everything came out in the wash — it didn't matter to me as it was all under control, or so it seemed and I was hooked. So, here's a woman who runs from the arms of her Knight in Shinning Armour (her words) into those of her narcissistic, alcoholic and abusive (her words too) ex because she has to give the man she was wed to for 30 years a 3rd chance.
The moral here is that you really don't know a person until you really know that person. I could write a book!
I would make a great bartender if I could only mix drinks!
Mike
How are you putting yourself out there? Do you have a good friend that could review your profile and offer suggestions on how you could improve it?
Have you heard of Events and Adventures? Does that sound like something you would be interested in trying?
If the talk becomes excessive, or gets out of hand then I will bring it to her attention and discuss whether or not she's really ready for dating. By the way, I do not and never will date a married woman. Period! Amen! So, knowing and learning certain things about a person early on are very important and that cuts both ways. I don't like to delve into anyone's past. Usually when we've been going out for a while and we're comfortable with each other we open up about our lives and mention things without having to be prodded. That was the case with my last relationship, the only problem was that she wasn't totally honest with herself or me about her feelings for the ex. Does she really love the guy, or does she just need him to stay connected to her past? That's the $64,000 question! Towards the end of our relationship she started to exhibit red flags and looking back now without my rose colored glasses on I can see them vividly. As beautiful of a person as she is, she has a lot of unresolved issues. It's sad to say, but both of them do!
As far as my profile goes I took it down as I am no longer on that site — I felt there wasn't a need for it anymore when I met her. When it was up I was contacted by several women that said they liked what they read and how it was written.
I intend to take it easy with dating for a while. I must reassess my needs and my wants and adjust my life accordingly. Over the last 18 months I've learned a lot about myself with the gist of it coming in these last 4 months alone. I feel as if I had lived a lifetime with that woman, especially with all that we braved and experienced together.
Thanks for your reply.
Mike
Good luck, in whatever you do!!!
Dennis
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