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lissmeanstrouble posted:
My mother lives in the same house I grew up in. When I was young young... I would sit with my brother on his bed and watch the shadow people cruise around from the corners of our eyes, we would twist around wildly both of us tryin to catch a full on look of the same people just running around us in the living room. You would see them walk into your peripheral, just stand there, as soon as you turn they would disappear. I woke up on occasion to rattling of the silver ware drawer, I was 9, terrified, walked into the kitchen where I saw the shape of what I now call "Spike" spike was a 7 foot tall shadow creature who was hunched over the silverware drawer, looked up at me. These beings are faceless... he just had spikes coming from his back that made him resemble a porcupine... I was terrified and ran and hid in my covers. My brother later told me about the crown man he sees in the basement with red eyes. this man was also very tall and had the shape of a crown on his head... the only one whos eyes we could see. crown man would stand in the basement corner and spike would hang out with the silverware... and the others would skip around in the peripheral corners of our eyes. My brother moved out, and I was 16-17 home alone middle of the day in summer. upside down blow dryin my hair looking between my legs into the hallway from our bathroom, and a pair of legs walked by. I jumped and screamed. No one was supposed to be home but me! I turned off the blowdryer and followed the legs... the only place they could have gone was into my bedroom from that point of the hall... and there was nothing there. No one to be found. Then I thought I was just being crazy and went back in the bathroom. Well my cat had a hacky sack we played with him, and something took his hacky sack off the bookshelf and hucked it into my bedroom door, very very hard. And my cat didnt chase it, he went and hid. SO I got cheesed and left my hous running ha ha. In The following months my mother would talk in the middle of the night yelling "who are you?! get out of here! you dont belong in here! get away from me!" and I would get scared and say mom mom whats wrong whos there, and she would talk in the strangest voice "what oh Im sorry darling there was a dark man standing over my bed, I was just dreaming go back to bed" this happened several different times and when I would ask her about it she would admit that she wasnt sure if she was awake or dreaming and that she had felt him breathing on her.
I moved out about 7 years ago. She still lives there. She says she hears growling coming from her fireplace. She doesnt believe in ghosts at all. Well I do, cause they live in her house where I grew up. I am not In denial like she is. My mother is very depressed. She is a a shut in. She doesnt have any friends... Honestly her life has gone no where but down hill since my dad moved her into that house 25 years ago. I am positive if she got out of that house she would feel better. I feel that the spirits will not let her her be happy or healthy or have friends... I just wish she would be normal... her yard is dead, the rain gutters hang off. my brother has done countless hours of house work for her and she just lets the house fall apart, she wont water her lawn, and it needs a new roof and a good vacuuming... she doesnt clean her bathroom, theres dead bugs all over the basement. I dont see why she insists on staying there. With her condition it would make all the sense in the world to move into a small apartment where she wouldnt have yard work to do and a much smaller space to keep clean, but she says she can not leave the house...
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Grampa_Bear responded:
They do have people who will do a house cleansning - for no charge. If you do a search for cleansing spirits you'll probably find a couple - maybe in the same area...it's worth a shot.

Another thing you can do is to get a bouquet of sage and go through the house with it, and/or take a nail and put a small cross over each door and window....I do that everywhere I've lived and haven't been bothered by any negative energy forms.

It's worth a shot anyhow. Let me know how you make out.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
there is sage all over the field in her back yard, so I can easily try that, why would that help though? I have a really good friend... *blush* more like my lil love interest.... but he grew up with a very violent spirit screamin in his face all of the time. I want to take him there, he says he can make it leave her alone. But... IDK, he could TRY... he probably knows some one like that I should ask him more about it, or if he wants to check her place out.
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to lissmeanstrouble's response:
Sage has been used for millenia for cleansing of spirits in dwellings. I'm not sure what it does, or how it does it, but many have used it to good success.

Sometimes, the spirits just need to be told to go to the light to move them on their way, other times it requires more pre-emptive actions...if that's the case, then someone who's dealt with this kind of thing is the best bet. Several things have to be taken into account before a cleansing is even attempted.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
BTW: The bouquet is tied off into a thick brush...about 2 inches in diameter, and is wiped around doorways and window frames...and this includes doorways that are inside the house too...that go from room to room, not just those that lead to the outdoors.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
thanks jim. I will have to try that one time while she is at work. She doesnt believe in it, so I would have to do it while she isnt there...
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to lissmeanstrouble's response:
I just want to raise another question, has anyone else ever had a similar experience with shadow spirits? Is there some kind of significance about shadow spirits? You always hear about translucent people, and such, and the only spirits I have seen have been shadows...is there a known reason? I feel silly asking about this just cause Im sure no one sits and researches specifically on shadow spirits all day long cause alot of people dont believe in them, but I do! they used to be everywhere when I was a kid, and now I only see them every once in a great while... just wonder why they would see me so much then and not anymore. I am pretty certain its all associated with her house...
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to lissmeanstrouble's response:
Nah, don't feel silly. From what I've heard and read (never experienced) these entities are known collectively as "Shadow-People". The current thought is that they observe us - for whatever reason....some folks have linked them to UFOs and such, but there's no firm evidence for that per se.

One encounter that I heard of involved two guys who were working on taking down cell phone towers and such....they were observed - in full daylight - looking over the shoulders of the guys as they used their tools and disassembled the towers. The thought there was that they were either fascinated with the technology or there was some residual energy from the cell phone tower around that they were trying to absorb.

Nobody really has a good handle on who/what these critters are, but lots of folks see them.

Good Luck, hope this helped some.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
Wow that would be so cool... yeah I feel that they watch too. I feel like there are these guys up on the mountain not far from my house watching the nieghborhood. I am really into hearing about ways that aliens are linked to "ghost" sightings and any kind of alien or paranormal sighting at all. There are lights I see really late at night at on the mountain that could not be hikers or bikers, as they scatter so fast over areas I know are cliff face. Its very interesting! There are things that can not be explained only because we have not figured them out yet, but like... hundreds of years ago, we had not learned to harness electricity, and now we do. One day we will figure this out, people just need to be open to the idea...
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to lissmeanstrouble's response:
That's about right....I don't discount any idea (within reason)...heck, it wasn't that long ago and the idea of having a telephone without a cord was thought to be an idea out of science fiction....the old Dick Tracey comics with his wrist radio and all...and now science is talking about amoeba sized machines...who knows what'll be science fact in the next few years.

I remember as a kid that the main scientific thought was that it would be impossible to directly view a planet outside the solar system...now they have pictures of them!

You can never say NEVER.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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rubystar2 replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
they used to be everywhere when I was a kid, and now I only see them every once in a great while... just wonder why they would see me so much then and not anymore.

Lis, I just think children are more receptive to these kinds of things than adults are. Children just seem to have more energy about them that attracts these kinds of incidences. An example is poltergeists are often associated with teenagers.
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to rubystar2's response:
Hey Ruby,

You're right....children haven't lost their belief system. To them anything is possible and they haven't been taught to not believe, so they're open to seeing all kinds of things. My daughter had an invisible playmate when she was really little. It's once we grow up and learn that these things aren't "Real" that we loose our ability. The lucky ones learn how to reject this learning, and retain their sense of child-like-ness.

As far as the Poltergeists go, yes, it's true also that puberty is often the onset of this kind of activity. There's some evidence that it's their inner power manifesting itself in ways like this....objects moving, doors opening, knocking, thumping..that kind of thing.

Myself, I'm not sure if it's the inner energies being released, or the poltergeist drawing out the energy to be able to make these things happen.

It would make an interesting study though, although I doubt you could get a solid researcher to be willing to do this...you know how 'Hard Science' is..."If we can't measure it, cut it up and examine it, then it doesn't exist".

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to rubystar2's response:
Hmm so do you think it was a poltergeist that threw the hacky sack and stood over my mothers bed?
 
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Grampa_Bear replied to lissmeanstrouble's response:
Well, the moving objects can be poltergeist activity (poltergeist is German for 'Noisy Spirit'), but the one standing over your Mom's bed wouldn't be one of those....if it was just a really dark figure, it was probably a shadow person. I've never heard of a poltergeist physically manifesting, nor have I ever heard of a shadow person moving objects...sounds like you have more than one visitor there.

Jim
Listen to them - the children of the night. What music they make - Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
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lissmeanstrouble replied to Grampa_Bear's response:
yeah you can hear things crawling in the walls and scratching and you can hear things growling in the chimney, that she says are just animals. PSHHHH! those are some creepy... animals that have dug tunnels through the framing of her walls some how. psh...
This is really interesting tho Jim thanks! I have always been super interested in hearing what some one who believes thinks of what goes on in her house cause she just makes up excuses for everything all the time.
One time I was driving home... when I was 19 or so really late at night and I decided to take the back road that passes near her house (the neighborhood I grew up in) I was driving up this hill and there was a street light and under the street light a shadow person appeared next to a car that was parked on the side of the road. It scared me cause the person started walking right towards my car as I was driving up the road, so I slowed way down almost to a stop, it stood in the street and looked at me and turned and ran across the street into the back yard of the house on the corner. Maybe that whole area around there is like that IDK... none of the other kids I played with growing up ever said they saw that stuff though. I think the poltergeist only came to hang out at my house once cause that was the only time I saw like a translucent spirit and had something thrown that made noise.
I feel bad for my mom I feel like there is a bad spirit that tells her what to do while she sleeps or something...


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