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An_254563 posted:
Hi Counterso. I've read this discussion and thought I'd share my experience. About 8 months ago I did the jelquing exercises. At first I saw some fantastic results and had some excellent erections. Then a few weeks I was experiencing some ED. This was a concern. I then had sex about a month and half after doing the jelquing. The night will haunt me for a while. I was under the influence of aderall and alcohol which may have caused some ED at the time as well. I then took half of a generic viagra to get it hard. I had intercourse for roughly an hour, and then masturbated for about 25 minutes in efforts of ejaculating. I then gave it up. I then noticed my penis swell up. I went to the local doctor for a check up and said it looked irritated and to apply warm wrap 3 times a day. I then saw a urologist 3 months later as I felt some tingling and pains. 1 urologist said that my penis looked fine and that it was in my head, same with the second one. The third one noticed the enlarged vein on my penis and and diagnosed me with slight tears and not to believe what is on the internet. He told me to take an aspirin indefinitely and not to masturbate He also prescribed me . The last 8 months have been hell, while I've seen improvements I have this thick prominent vein coming from the bottom of the shaft and travels upwards and curves left. I also feel some tingling on the inside of my penis. I just hope that the jelquing and rough masturbation from that night don't cause permanent damage.
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im2hollywood responded:
I guess I never did let heal properly which may be a cause and the tingling may be the vessels healing. The tingling is mainly when lying down and Ive noticed its stopped in certain area. But after showing the Urologist what the jelquing is (many of them are unfamiliar with therm) he said that he was pretty sure it wasn't nerve damage and the fact that I can still erect in general is a positive sign.
 
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im2hollywood replied to im2hollywood's response:
His response was that the body has a magnificent way of healing itself and to remain abstinent for 2 months. Hopefully this will fully heal me. Also I didn't do the jelquing extremely rough but when I went rough on the masturbation the girl said it looked like I did it pretty hard,
 
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counterso replied to im2hollywood's response:
Well, to give you some basis for comparison, a penis is designed to sustain about 20 minutes of mild to moderate stimulation a couple times a week. More than that in any one session (actually engaging the use of your penis, like penetration or masturbation) is abusive to the structure. Jelqing is always abusive to the structure and is intended to be so, with the hope that the body's natural repair process heals the damage in a way that achieves the desired effect. Unfortunately any damage can become problematic, even unintentionally.

The vessel you're noticing beneath the skin may be evidence of structural changes caused by rough use. In and of itself it isn't signaling a problem, but it is a change. You can see similar vessels protruding on athletes' arms who work out heavily. Without getting into the physiology of how this type of vessel prominence occurs, you can simply go by the analogy.

Yes, jelqing is a nickame, so not everyone has heard it, for a particular masturbation technique. And most urologists would be displeased, but not surprised, that men do this. Collectively they've seen the most bizarre things people do with their penises, so it's pretty hard to surprise them.

A tingling sensation in your penis doesn't have to originate in your penis. It could be related to your rough use, or it could be something else entirely that has crossed circuits in the same sacral nerve plexus where your sexual stimulation nerve bundles connect.

Nerve damage is difficult to diagnose until it is extreme. Tingling is more often associated with the kind of damage that is similar to a bruise or stun effect. And as a mild trauma, the nerve may not signal that it needs repair. Nerve repair processes are irregular and hard to predict. So mild damage, like crushing a bit during jelqing, may leave a chronic tingling sensation that doesn't heal over time because it wasn't so traumatic that the body registered nerve damage. You can still feel the sensation, but it's a sensation that doesn't register as 'greater than a standard deviation' for your body, so it doesn't respond like something is wrong.

I feel like I'm throwing spaghetti at the wall here to come up with analogies. And I don't know that I have any helpful recommendations. There's almost nothing that can stimulate nerve regrowth. It either magically happens or it doesn't. A urologist wouldn't be helpful if this is what needs healing. Even a neurologist may not be of help, but possibly more, at least in confirming that it is nerve related.

It sounds like your rough use has not caused a serious problem, as you mentioned you are still getting regular erections without assistance.

It IS possible that the tingling could be a side effect of the Adderall. There are many sexual side effects from its use that can occur. Mixing those three drugs at the same time was risky, and you're lucky nothing worse happened to you from the combination. Are you regularly experiencing erection issues from the Adderall that prompted you to get a Viagra prescription?
 
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im2hollywood replied to counterso's response:
He perscribed me cialis to restore blood flow. They told me they've seen much worse things happen and that my wounds should heal. It was difficult to maintain an erection.. now not so much anymore just hard to erect at times maybe because I never gave it time to heal. I feel that it will resolve eventually as I am no longer experiencing any pains. Just thought if you thought my vein or ed was permanent or just to excess and rough use and needs a break?
 
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im2hollywood replied to im2hollywood's response:
My friend told me he pinched a nerve before and it healed within 2 months. I don't think I have permanent nerve damage if any or else I wouldn't erect at all or feel anything. Just feels like the slight tears are rejuvenating perhaps since I never gave it a real chance to heal.
 
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im2hollywood replied to im2hollywood's response:
What really bothered me the most is that did no tests at all. I saw 3 urologists and 2 said nothing was wrong and one diagnosed slight blood vessell tears which is why the vein enlarged. I dont know if it is nerve damage because I can pinch it and feel the pressure or put ice and feel that so not sure if its nerve damage or not. But I have been discomforted for a while and just need to remain optimistic as "all wounds heal within time" apparently. The last urologist I saw was a urology surgeon so I'd like to give him some credit as Im sure hes seen some awful things.
 
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counterso replied to im2hollywood's response:
Nerve damage/healing is not something you can compare between two different people. The circumstances will never be exactly the same, and even when the circumstances are the same, your body's response is not predictably the same as the other person.

There are no "tests" to determine what's wrong. That's why none were conducted. A combination of basic observation and questioning is the assessment method.

There are many different kinds of nerves and the ones that tingle may not be the ones that sense temperature or pressure. AND where you feel the sensation is not necessarily where the source of the tingling is. Because the nerve bundle in your sacrum is so dense and there are so many nerve endings in your penis, the signals can bleed over onto other nerve fibers and give you a misrepresented location for the source. This is similar to banging your elbow but feeling it in your fingertips. Nothing happened to your fingertips, but the nerve plexus is in your elbow that is shared with your fingers.
 
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im2hollywood replied to counterso's response:
Ultimately they could have taken an X-Ray to see if there were any problems. I feel my problem will resolve within time of just giving it a rest and not touching it. Im sure there are worse problems that could have happened such as a fracture or break.
 
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counterso replied to im2hollywood's response:
An x-ray is relatively poor at seeing issues that involve soft tissue. X-rays are for visibility of hard structures like bone, and work precisely because they can see through soft tissue.

A fracture or break would have very different symptoms.

Yes, time to heal is the most likely best choice.


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