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    My Dr said I did it
    teddybear200 posted:
    My Endo Dr used the exact word "reversed" my diabetes. Bear in mind I was only diagnosed in 2007 and told the Drs then it was a mistake - I am not / nor will be a diabetic. I remember telling them I will not be another statistic in my family.

    I started out on regular Metformin but could not tolerate it so I was put on Metformin XR. Was on 2,000 mg nightly, last year I decreased it to 1,000mg nightly, then in Jan this year I went down to 500mg's and I think in April I just stopped it all together. Went to all the diabetic classes and had a dietitian help me figure what to do next. I was told my diabetes was genetic and would have it for life. Not me I said, ain't happening. I was hypoglycemic pretty much of my life I would not be a diabetic.

    Well, yesterday at my Drs appt he looked at my stats and said I do not need to come back to see him unless for Endocrine issues. He said he hasn't seen too many of his patients "reverse" their diabetes as fast as I did 3 and 1/2yrs - he shook my hand and said well done.

    My A1C was only 5.7 with a 2 hr fasting of 103.

    He asked what my diet has been like in the last 3 months. I told him what I have to eat, he says you're not eating diabetic friendly foods, why? So I told him and gave him the surgical report about my colon, all he could say was wow then exercise must be helping you with your numbers, he stopped and said no that isn't right you can't exercise. He also told me now that my colon has been removed I need to stop taking the Metformin - my response was I haven't been on it for months. You should have seen his face.

    He wrote in my chart Non-diabetic. He felt that since my numbers have been steadily going down even on my current diet there was no need for further testing except my thyroid which is always every 6 months.

    I did ask him if he uses the HOMA testing method - his response: "only in extreme cases when the individual patient is not controlling their sugars and the numbers keep climbing."

    As for the fasting insulin blood test he only uses it when the person's number keep climbing despite all efforts. He doesn't use it in controlled patients - he says "it's an added expense to the patient".

    So over all I had a good visit.
    One day I will soar on wings of an Eagle - Deb
    shank_us responded:
    Great News. Congratulations.
    betaquartz responded:
    WOW1 This is fantastic news for you in so many ways.
    davedsel57 responded:

    That is fantastic news! You have done an excellent job of taking charge of your health issues. You are truly an inspiration and shining example.

    I am continuing to pray for you as you work to resolve your other medical problems.

    Do you not know? Have you not heard?
    The LORD is the everlasting God,
    the Creator of the ends of the earth.
    He will not grow tired or weary,
    and his understanding no one can fathom.
    He gives strength to the weary
    and increases the power of the weak.
    Even youths grow tired and weary,
    and young men stumble and fall;
    but those who hope in the LORD
    will renew their strength.
    They will soar on wings like eagles;
    they will run and not grow weary,
    they will walk and not be faint.

    Isaiah 40:28-31
    Blessings, -Dave
    teddybear200 replied to davedsel57's response:
    Dave that is my favorite verse in the Bible. I did not quote the verse word for word on purpose - because with the Lord's help I will soar on a Eagle's wing not like his wing but on it.

    Through Him all things are possible.
    One day I will soar on wings of an Eagle - Deb
    auriga1 responded:
    Congratulations, Deb. Good for you.

    Many doctors don't see this too often. Even my doctor said most of his patients are non-compliant. Sad state of affairs.

    Nice entry in your medical chart. I'm sure you love seeing that.
    DavidHueben responded:

    Good for you!!! It is interesting how different physicians view the subject of "reversal", "remission", "control", "cure", etc.

    For example, your doctor views your A1C of 5.7% and a fasting glucose of 103 as reversal. He considered that to be non-diabetic and indicated that in your chart.

    At my last checkup in late May, my A1C was 5.1%, my fasting glucose was 82, and I had discontinued my very small dosage of Metformin (500 mg once a day) five months earlier. However, my doctor's response, after looking at the lab work, was that I was doing a pretty good job of "controlling" my diabetes. I am pretty sure I will never hear the words "reversal" or "non-diabetic" from his mouth!!!

    Also, that is good news from Madison.

    Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! -Tommy Smothers
    teddybear200 replied to DavidHueben's response:
    David so why won't your Dr say those words, doesn't he/she believe it can be done? With a 5.1 from a 6. something wouldn't you be declared in at best in remission? or a non-diabetic? I mean you're not on meds any more.

    My Dr said that 4.0 to 6.0 is considered Non-diabetic.
    One day I will soar on wings of an Eagle - Deb
    DavidHueben replied to teddybear200's response:

    That is an interesting question. There is no doubt in my mind that he is pleased with my progress over the last 5 years. That he has said many times.

    I believe that he views patients who are doing well at "controlling" their diabetes in much the same way he would view a recovering alcoholic. The potential to "backslide" is always there.

    I guess he would view me as a "recovering diabetic"!!!

    Have a good evening. Stay dry up there. Lots of storms today in "Cheese Country".

    Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! -Tommy Smothers
    RealityBytes replied to DavidHueben's response:
    I'm with your Doctor, David.

    Mine, however, is of the "you're not diabetic" camp, which annoys me. My niece is lactose intolerant, so she doesn't drink milk. As a result, she doesn't have any of the digestive problems. It doesn't make her not lactose intolerant though!. She's just controlling it.

    Since 5.7 and 103 aren't anywhere close to the typical levels of non-diabetics, I certainly couldn't agree with teddybear200's doctor.
    DavidHueben replied to RealityBytes's response:

    In no way was I diagreeing with Deb or her doctor's characterization of her diabetic progress (which has been outstanding, especially while dealing with several serious medical conditions). My original response to her was simply to point out that different doctors and even different national diabetes professional organizations define things in different ways and I find that interesting.

    I am not sure I can agree with your comment that an A1C of 5.7% and a fasting glucose level of 103 are not "anywhere close" to the levels of a non-diabetic. If a patient with no previous history of diabetes presented with those lab results, they would certainly not be diagnosed as diabetic. I suspect most doctors would say they need to keep an eye on those levels.

    Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! -Tommy Smothers
    ColliemomBeks replied to DavidHueben's response:
    I am confused. I was under the impression that although one could improve their numbers and "reverse" their diabetes, they would still be labeled diabetic. Or... does the label become "prediabetic?" I asked my doctor in April when I brought my numbers from 137 to 90 fasting and 7.4 to 6.4 on my A1c that if I brought my A1c to normal and kept my fasting number to 90, would I still be considered diabetic. He said yes. I sure would like to know the "correct" answer since it seems some of our doctors are not in agreement with each other.
    xring replied to ColliemomBeks's response:
    I consider myself diabetic with an A1c of 6.0. I take that as a "controlled without medication" diabetic, but I wouldn't consider myself cured or "non diabetic" unless I can eat a bowl of ice cream surrounded by Oreos & test under 100.
    krhudson responded:
    Great news Teddy! Not very often all of a sudden becoming a non diabetic after having Diabetes. You are the proof in the pudding . Even though you are classified non diabetic we know you will still kind of watch it . Same thing with my RA.
    It has been so long gone my sed rate did not show I had it so I have not seen a specialist for 8 years just to get off the last maintenance doses of an ugly drug I was on. I no longer needed it. The Dr. said if I had any pain crop up for any reason having to do with RA to come back in, he had much newer forms of treatment. I thought I would get a big flare and nothing has come back. It is nice to be free of some of these problems 1 layer at a time sometimes.


    krhudson replied to xring's response:
    Hi Xring, Ice cream and Oreos sound wonderful. I will dream about it.


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