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    New peanuts campaign
    ufatbasted posted:
    On the subway today here in nYc i saw a new campaign for peanuts. The head ine read:

    "Peanuts have more anti-oxidants than broccoli"
    No mention of fat or calorie or vitamin content.
    No folks will be eating tons of fattening peanuts thinking the are
    eating healthy!
    ufatbasted responded:
    I meant to type Now folks will be eating tons of fattening peanuts thinking they are eating he
    DoloresTeresa responded:
    I bet people don't know what more anti oxidents means. If they mean that a handful of peanuts has more antioxidents than a serving of brocolli then that is one thing. But I am betting that they really mean if you take equal weights of brocolli and peanuts the peanuts have more. No mention that there are about ten times more calories in an equal weight of peanuts.

    Which reminds me of an ad for a boxed cereal that said it had no more sugar than an apple. What they didn't tell you is that an average apple might weigh five ounces and a serving of cereal is one ounce. So the cereal has five times as much sugar as the apple and not much of the other good stuff in an apple.

    xring responded:
    Well, I'd rather see an ad campaign for nuts than one for burgers & fries.

    Food for thought: I've had a lifelong weight problem (405 lbs. at one time). After losing 200 lbs, I've always heard about how high nuts are in calories & fat, so naturally I'd avoid them. After being diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago, I started following a plant-based diet & because I've been eating less meat & dairy, I've been eating several large handfuls of nuts/day. I've lost the 70 lbs I'd gained back over the years & haven't gained any back regardless of how many nuts I eat.

    Nuts are high in calories & fat but I don't think all fat is the same.

    Of course, raw nuts are best.
    Politicians should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison.
    ufatbasted replied to xring's response:
    Still to compare them to broccoli me thinks is shady marketing.
    You are eating a plant based diet as am I. Our caloric and fat intake is much less than the normal person.
    Someone who is still eating the standard American Diet and overweight might now eat more nuts and less broccoli after reading that headline.
    xring replied to ufatbasted's response:
    I see what you mean. Naturally, a peanut ad will tout the benefits of peanuts & a broccoli ad will do the same. That can be misleading to some people.

    I remember hearing that coffee & dark chocolate have more antioxidants than any fruit or vegetable. That may encourage people to overindulge in them.

    I think it's important to get a mix of all foods anyway.
    Politicians should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison.
    EngineerGuy replied to xring's response:
    Hi guys,

    It is a privilege to be able to post in the same discussion as you gentlemen. Congratulations, Xring, on losing so much weight.

    You are both so right about information fed to the public. Food advertisements are not public service health announcements. Drug commercials are not public service health announcements. With so much of our magazines and TV so dependent on drug ads for their advertising survival, it actually prevents the message from getting out, that we can get off drugs with diet and exercise.

    For those reading, here's 2 examples of the word not getting out, due to the advertising reliance of our media.

    The magazine Diabetes Today was going to publish an article written by Dr. Fuhrman. They had even paid him the $750 author's fee. But then they called and said their sponsor sold insulin. His article told of 4 diabetics who got off insulin. They asked Dr. Fuhrman if he could re-write the article, to say they got on reduced dosages. He said he could not do that, and he returned the author's fee.

    The TV show 20/20 heard of Dr. Fuhrman, and spent hours interviewing him, his office staff, and his patients. The 20/20 staff was amazed and very enthusiastic about the program, because of the wonderful recoveries people were experiencing. The segment was never aired, because the network did not want to alienate their drug advertising clients.

    Best regards, EngineerGuy
    xring replied to EngineerGuy's response:
    I saw both of those pieces on You Tube. Really illuminates the financial ties involved.
    Politicians should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison.
    DoloresTeresa replied to EngineerGuy's response:
    I hope everyone remembers that Dr. Fuhrman is not the messiah. What he says has to be checked out just like information from everyone else. While it was outrageous that the 20/20 interview was canceled, he mentions that Dr. Gary Null has not been treated fairly. Gary Null was a short order cook who got a bachelor's degree from a college that offers no courses and has no campus and a Ph.D from a "non traditional" university in which his dissertation on Caffeine was reviewed by himself, a couple of people who had no expertise in the field of nutrition, a couple of people who cannot be found and whose credentials are unknown and a buddy or two of his who co wrote something with Null. Fuhrman should check his facts. Just because someone promotes himself as does Null does not mean that people should take him seriously. You can read about Null on Quackwatch.

    jc3737 replied to DoloresTeresa's response:
    Great post Dolores.We should always be asking challenging questions of everyone,even Dr Fuhrman.
    DeadManWalking57 responded:
    Hmm. I don't recall from my anti-oxidants research that broccolli has much anti-oxidants at all. Maybe that's why they picked it.

    Notice they picked a vegetable. On the anti-oxidant spectrum the order is

    1) Herbs and spices
    2) Fruit
    3) Veggies

    And among each of these, there is a 10 to 20 fold spread of contributing anti-oxidants quantities.

    The statement about peanuts and broccolli may be comparable to saying you can tolerate immense pain for a nanosecond. a nanosecond is so brief, you would not register it at all. Like the anti-oxidants in peanuts.
    EngineerGuy replied to DeadManWalking57's response:
    Hi DMW,

    We have known since the 1970's that people eating broccoli, have less cancer. I read Dr. Elizabeth Whelasn's book back then, informing the public of exciting information to that effect.

    If antioxidants per calorie are listed, then veggies come out way on top. Of course, herbs and spices are veggies, but they are very much on top, agreeing with your list. Fruit is very valuable, also, providing antioxidants not present on other foods.

    To say that veggies are low in antioxidants, misses a very valuable insight. Namely, eating 2 pounds of veggies daily, (raw, blended, cooked), can be part of a fabulously healthy program. I never would have guessed, until I did it myself.

    Best regards, EngineerGuy

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